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[JDB3]

Ceiling fans installed under a covered porch , but the wire & box will not be covered by any framing or soffit material. Therefore the fans will be mounted to a sloped rafter.
Would using a regular fan rated box be permissible? I would consider this a dry location.
I would appreciate feed-back on this. Thanks.

 

[Ponchik]

Ceiling fans installed under a covered porch , but the wire & box will not be covered by any framing or soffit material. Therefore the fans will be mounted to a sloped rafter.
Would using a regular fan rated box be permissible? I would consider this a dry location.
I would appreciate feed-back on this. Thanks.

IMO, yes.

 

[MNSparky]

Does the porch have windows? Around here, if the porch doesn't have windows (either screens or open) it's considered a damp location. We would need to use wiring, boxes, devices and a fan rated for a damp location.

 

[cpinetree]

Does the porch have windows? Around here, if the porch doesn't have windows (either screens or open) it's considered a damp location. We would need to use wiring, boxes, devices and a fan rated for a damp location.

When that is required we use a Thomas + Betts# S47CFB
http://www-public.tnb.com/ps/fulltilt/index.cgi?part=S47CFB

 

[cpinetree]

Arlington also makes an exterior rated fan box
# FBC4225w
http://www.aifittings.com/catalog/fan-fixture-boxes/non-metallic-rainbox/FBC4225W

 

[cowboyjwc]

We would consider a porch a damp location also. So you would also need a damp location fan.

 

[JDB3]

When that is required we use a Thomas + Betts# S47CFB
http://www-public.tnb.com/ps/fulltilt/index.cgi?part=S47CFB

I looked at that box, and the problem with it, is the sloped rafters that the boxes would be mounted to. Thank you.

 

[JDB3]

We would consider a porch a damp location also. So you would also need a damp location fan.

The fans will be listed for outdoor / patio use. The main problem with not using an outdoor rated fan is, that the blades may tend to warp.

 

[JDB3]

Thank all of you'll for the input.

 

[JDB3]

IMO, yes.

Thank you. I plan, then to go ahead and use ceiling fan rated boxes feed by MN (romex) for this installation. True that EMT would look nice, but with the type of framing that was done, out of the question. Even MC would be next to impossible.

For some flood lights on the corners, I plan to use UF cable going into a weather resistant box (around here we call them "Bell Boxes").

 

[Coppersmith]

When that is required we use a Thomas + Betts# S47CFB
http://www-public.tnb.com/ps/fulltilt/index.cgi?part=S47CFB

I don't understand how the cover is supposed to be used. Every fan I've installed, including ones on porches, connect to the box directly. Only thing I can imagine is the downrod screwing into it, but that doesn't seem like a good idea.

 

[Coppersmith]

I looked at that box, and the problem with it, is the sloped rafters that the boxes would be mounted to. Thank you.

When the box is sloped, you have to use a fan with a downrod. They level themselves. A flush mounted fan won't work. (Well, it will work, but it will look funny being tilted.)

 

[cpinetree]

Have you seen the Arlington Slope adapters?
Not sure they will help you here, but they are helpful on occasion.

http://www.aimedia.co/media/catalog-pages/R-16.pdf

 

[JDB3]

When the box is sloped, you have to use a fan with a downrod. They level themselves. A flush mounted fan won't work. (Well, it will work, but it will look funny being tilted.)

True, but like stated, it appears that the down-rod of the ceiling fan screws into the outlet box cover. Therefore it would not work withe the box attached to a sloped rafter.

 

[JDB3]

Have you seen the Arlington Slope adapters?
Not sure they will help you here, but they are helpful on occasion.

http://www.aimedia.co/media/catalog-pages/R-16.pdf

Thanks, but it appears that they are not designed to mount an outlet box to ( in this case a possible weather resistant box).

 

[retirede]

Thanks, but it appears that they are not designed to mount an outlet box to ( in this case a possible weather resistant box).

Those are "outlet boxes"; 70 lb. fan-rated also


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[Cletis]

Honestly, if this is not inspected id just use a octagon metal, regular ceiling fan, maybe some nolox for the connection and be done


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[midamericairon]

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It cracks me up when people think that just because there are no inspections, that means there are also no codes to follow. Check NEC definitions on what location an open porch is considered.


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