Ambitiouslearner
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- Indianapolis Indiana
Hey guys, this is my first post but first and foremost, I want to express my appreciation for the knowledge everyone shares as it's helped me out of my fair share of binds!
My question is in relation to plastic CGB fittings. Currently I am closing out a project on a commercial administration/warehouse building as the PE for a GC. After an incredibly in depth electrical inspection (literally opening every Jbox, device, etc and inspecting every splice point, termination point, etc) by the clients electrical inspector (not affiliated with the city) we finally finished our punch list and demobilized. However, now that we've demobed, he's added an addition item (they are refusing to pay our portion of retainage associated with punch list because of this) that we now have to address.
As some backstory, this inspector has been a pain in the neck to work with. He has quoted tons of sections of code throughout the project that I had to point out were incorrect in the given situation or not applicable in the given situation and despite him realizing that I'm correct will continue to report back to the moderator of the punch list that the items are still a violation. The only ways that I've been able to get him to admit he's wrong is by recording his convorsation's with me, saving his text messages, or destroying his arguments in lay mans terms to his boss (who knows nothing about electrical as he's just a general QC guy with a specialization in pipe). To date, he added 130 electrical items as "violations" over 4 PEMB's, and I have disproven a little over 100 of them.
We have a Quincy QGS 25 HP Air compressor - (http://www.quincycompressor.com/products/rotary-screw-air-compressors/qgs/) and are using a Plastic CGB fitting in lieu of a cord and plug because:
A.) The compressor is anchored to the ground
B.) It has it's own disconnect mounted nearby
C.) Due to the location, and the clearance from the wall (approximately 3' from a wall behind the air compressor), and how we know that every owner in the world will shove any material they can in any space they see as potentially available - it could have potentially caused a trip hazard or had the opportunity to be pulled from the wall/damaged by an unknowing individual moving material in places it shouldn't be to begin with
So, with this latest one, he stated that we are in violation by using the CGB fitting in lieu of a cord and plug for the above mentioned air compressor because it violated sections 110.16 and 110.18 of the NEC. I have already explained to him and his boss that 110.16 has nothing to do with the CGB fitting as it pertains to the marking on the equipment. The part I'm struggling with is 110.18 and explaining to his boss that the CGB isn't a violation as he's looking for something from "somebody smarter" as he put it than I to corroborate that it's acceptable. Is there another way to go about demonstrating that I'm correct in this situation? I've reached out to my electrical engineer and my electrician, but the problem is that this has come up AFTER we've all demobed from the job site and after all the crap they've been through already with this guy and they've already gotten the majority of their money, they're not exactly itching to help this jobsite. Below is the code sections mentioned for reference:
110.16 Arc-Flash Hazard Warning. Electrical equipment, such as switchboards, switchgear, panel boards, industrial control panels, meter socket enclosures, and motor control centers, that are in other than dwelling units, and are likely to require examination, adjustment, servicing, or maintenance while energized, shall be field or factory marked to
warn qualified persons of potential electric arc flash hazards. The marking shall meet the requirements in 110.21(B) and shall be located so as to be clearly visible to qualified
persons before examination, adjustment, servicing, or maintenance of the equipment.
Informational Note No. 1: NFPA 70E-2012, Standard for Electrical Safety in the Workplace, provides guidance, such as determining severity of potential exposure, planning safe
work practices, arc flash labeling, and selecting personal protective equipment.
Informational Note No. 2: ANSI Z535.4-1998, Product Safety Signs and Labels, provides guidelines for the design of safety signs and labels for application to products.
110.18 Arcing Parts. Parts of electrical equipment that in ordinary operation produce arcs, sparks, flames, or molten metal shall be enclosed or separated and isolated from all
combustible material.
Informational Note: For hazardous (classified) locations, see Articles 500 through 517. For motors, see 430.14.
Thanks in advance!
My question is in relation to plastic CGB fittings. Currently I am closing out a project on a commercial administration/warehouse building as the PE for a GC. After an incredibly in depth electrical inspection (literally opening every Jbox, device, etc and inspecting every splice point, termination point, etc) by the clients electrical inspector (not affiliated with the city) we finally finished our punch list and demobilized. However, now that we've demobed, he's added an addition item (they are refusing to pay our portion of retainage associated with punch list because of this) that we now have to address.
As some backstory, this inspector has been a pain in the neck to work with. He has quoted tons of sections of code throughout the project that I had to point out were incorrect in the given situation or not applicable in the given situation and despite him realizing that I'm correct will continue to report back to the moderator of the punch list that the items are still a violation. The only ways that I've been able to get him to admit he's wrong is by recording his convorsation's with me, saving his text messages, or destroying his arguments in lay mans terms to his boss (who knows nothing about electrical as he's just a general QC guy with a specialization in pipe). To date, he added 130 electrical items as "violations" over 4 PEMB's, and I have disproven a little over 100 of them.
We have a Quincy QGS 25 HP Air compressor - (http://www.quincycompressor.com/products/rotary-screw-air-compressors/qgs/) and are using a Plastic CGB fitting in lieu of a cord and plug because:
A.) The compressor is anchored to the ground
B.) It has it's own disconnect mounted nearby
C.) Due to the location, and the clearance from the wall (approximately 3' from a wall behind the air compressor), and how we know that every owner in the world will shove any material they can in any space they see as potentially available - it could have potentially caused a trip hazard or had the opportunity to be pulled from the wall/damaged by an unknowing individual moving material in places it shouldn't be to begin with
So, with this latest one, he stated that we are in violation by using the CGB fitting in lieu of a cord and plug for the above mentioned air compressor because it violated sections 110.16 and 110.18 of the NEC. I have already explained to him and his boss that 110.16 has nothing to do with the CGB fitting as it pertains to the marking on the equipment. The part I'm struggling with is 110.18 and explaining to his boss that the CGB isn't a violation as he's looking for something from "somebody smarter" as he put it than I to corroborate that it's acceptable. Is there another way to go about demonstrating that I'm correct in this situation? I've reached out to my electrical engineer and my electrician, but the problem is that this has come up AFTER we've all demobed from the job site and after all the crap they've been through already with this guy and they've already gotten the majority of their money, they're not exactly itching to help this jobsite. Below is the code sections mentioned for reference:
110.16 Arc-Flash Hazard Warning. Electrical equipment, such as switchboards, switchgear, panel boards, industrial control panels, meter socket enclosures, and motor control centers, that are in other than dwelling units, and are likely to require examination, adjustment, servicing, or maintenance while energized, shall be field or factory marked to
warn qualified persons of potential electric arc flash hazards. The marking shall meet the requirements in 110.21(B) and shall be located so as to be clearly visible to qualified
persons before examination, adjustment, servicing, or maintenance of the equipment.
Informational Note No. 1: NFPA 70E-2012, Standard for Electrical Safety in the Workplace, provides guidance, such as determining severity of potential exposure, planning safe
work practices, arc flash labeling, and selecting personal protective equipment.
Informational Note No. 2: ANSI Z535.4-1998, Product Safety Signs and Labels, provides guidelines for the design of safety signs and labels for application to products.
110.18 Arcing Parts. Parts of electrical equipment that in ordinary operation produce arcs, sparks, flames, or molten metal shall be enclosed or separated and isolated from all
combustible material.
Informational Note: For hazardous (classified) locations, see Articles 500 through 517. For motors, see 430.14.
Thanks in advance!