Charging and paying for piece work

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emahler said:
goes with the 1 hr ceiling fan install from start to finish...

It'd been a while since I installed one without a down rod. Took me almost 2 HOURS the first time I did one recently. I'd like to find the variable rung height ladder. One rung is too low, two rungs is too high.

Let's just say when "Can you install a door chime?" came around I was delighted to say "Yes". Someone else can install those stupid ceiling fans in 8' ceilings.
 
tallgirl said:
Let's just say when "Can you install a door chime?" came around I was delighted to say "Yes". Someone else can install those stupid ceiling fans in 8' ceilings.
I schedule 35 minutes for ceiling fan assembly and hanging. You've seen one, you've seen them all. I just wish some of the fan manufacturers would make the rubber isolators for the mounting plate differently so that they wouldn't poke right up through the drywall when you tighten the mounting plate to the box (Hunter). That's unnecessarily aggrivating. (Hunter) Fan's are also worthless when you're trying to mount a fan on a dropped ceiling fan box.
 
georgestolz said:
Wow. That's a steep hill, IMO.
I dunno, George. I install almost 200 ceiling fans myself each cooling season, and it's working out to just about normal, not counting changing the box to a fan rated assembly. I keep very good metrics. Seriously, when's the last time a paddle fan kicked your back side? If one of my guys spent 2 hours assembling and hanging a paddle fan, we'd need to have a talk. I'm certain that if it was some sort of competition, I could assemble and hang one of the major brands on an existing fan rated box in 15 minutes. If a fella has to cut open the plastic baggie the instructions come in, he's already in big trouble.
 
I know I know, Lou thinks he used to be SUPERMAN! :)

Seriously though, just 6 years ago (I'm 54 now) I wired a Murphy gas station at a WalMart. The GC super asked me where my help was when I showed up by myself to get started (all rigid conduit to dispensers and pumps, PVC for the service lateral and phone, EMT on the canopy for the canopy lights and strip lights around the canopy). I told him I would get some help when I got behind. The only time I needed help was when I pulled wire. Other than that, I did it all alone, and kept up. I was never the sub holding up progress.

About 8 months later another one came up. The same super was doing this one and demanded from the project manager that they use me for the electrical work. I was too busy and could not get to it. I visited the job one Friday afternoon to see how it was going and visit the super (we became friends). He said "Lou, you get more work done in a day by yourself than the three guys they have out here doing the electrical work".

Doubt me if you like, but yea, I was SUPERFAST, then I became FAST, now I'm just OK. The key is to be organized and prepared (with materials, a plan for work sequence, and attitude). You get out of the truck knowing what needs to be done from the start of the day to the finish. You don't much have to worry about tomorrow, because you already have it planned from last week.

Yea, I used to be pretty amazing. (And, as everyone can see now, I LOVE ME):grin: :grin: :grin:
 
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