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hi guys
got a call the other day on a remodel i did. bath fan started tripping gfi
took it off the outlet when i did it so i just removed it from the load side..
i've never had an issue until now...maybe these new lockout type circuitry.
it did'nt do it all the time..
anyone else run into it before

thanks
 
Why was it on the GFCI in the first place? :-? Is it plug and cord connected to a receptacle in the ceiling? If it is hard wired, there was no requirement for it to be GFCI protected.
 
charlie b said:
Why was it on the GFCI in the first place? :-? Is it plug and cord connected to a receptacle in the ceiling? If it is hard wired, there was no requirement for it to be GFCI protected.
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Is it because it is IN the shower? I believe then it would be required.
 
Most installation instructions will specify GFCI protection when ven is mounted over a bath or shower
From Marley bath vents
cULus listed for use over a tub or shower when wired on a UL listed GFI protected circuit.
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i know i did'nt need it but thats the way i did it... and it trips just by turning it on no steam or shower running...all i was asking if anyone else had it happen to them because it should'nt be happening...unless it makes a diff which way the motor is plugged in....:)
 
Try replacing the GFCI if it still trips the GFCI,..it is doing it's job ,.and there is problem with the vent.
 
charlie b said:
Why was it on the GFCI in the first place? :-? Is it plug and cord connected to a receptacle in the ceiling? If it is hard wired, there was no requirement for it to be GFCI protected.
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This could be a dangerous discovery/realization.lol Most of the cheaper Bath Fan/Light combos do plug in(internally). Would these not need be GFCI protected either way?

Tom:smile:
 
Davis9 said:
This could be a dangerous discovery/realization.lol Most of the cheaper Bath Fan/Light combos do plug in(internally). Would these not need be GFCI protected either way?

Tom:smile:
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Jim W in Tampa said:
Most i seen have a 120 receptacle just inside the unit for the fan motor. Is this receptacle in the bathroom or not ? OK can of worms now opened, have fun.
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It is not a receptacle for use like plugging in a hair dryer or your Norelco. It is part of a listed assembly and outside the scope of the NEC.
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
Are you saying i could not plug hair dryer into it ? Who keeps the cover in place ?
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If you want to pull the diffuser out, unscrew the bulb, then unscrew the plate that holds the reflector and trim piece off to expose the receptacles in them, by all means, you're free to do so.

Never said you couldn't plug anything else into them.. They're just part of a listed assembly and outside the scope of the NEC.
 
480sparky said:
If you want to pull the diffuser out, unscrew the bulb, then unscrew the plate that holds the reflector and trim piece off to expose the receptacles in them, by all means, you're free to do so.

Never said you couldn't plug anything else into them.. They're just part of a listed assembly and outside the scope of the NEC.
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your no fun i wanted to get a 200 reply going here
 
OK I'll help you get to 200. What about bathroom lights with receptacles built in? Are they a listed assembly out of the scope of the NEC? :)
 
does the code say receptacles located in listed assemblies dont need to be GFCI protected? maybe its a loophole and needs to be put into the code. maybe as an exception that allows those receptacles to non gfci protected.
 
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