Chicago and EMT

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Chicago and EMT

If you mean EMT must be plumbed. Then the answer is no !! 110.12 Neat and Workmanlike manner requiers that it always be plumbed.
 
Is it true that Chicagoland requires all occupancies to be wired with EMT and not any cable? Even one family dwellings?
 
infinity said:
Is it true that Chicagoland requires all occupancies to be wired with EMT and not any cable? Even one family dwellings?
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I have read in several posts this is true but haven`t checked it out.Has to add big bucks to the electrical install in the cost of the home though.I`ve been on condo complexes in florida where the spec was emt.There were pipe crews and wire pulling crews.It made for better electricians,they found out how to hit a wall in a slab,something most romex jockeys have no idea what it is to find a wall in a certain location in 1,000`s of sq. ft.
 
I've never installed a NM cable for anything, except temporary feeds like temp lights.

As for being more costly, I'd have to assume that might be true.
Who does it in NM, and whats it cost per opening.
Who does it in EMT and whats it cost per opening.
This may not be a perfect pole, since the prices may be different because of economics of the area.
How much of a break the contractor gives at selling time, I have no idea.
 
russ said:
I've never installed a NM cable for anything, except temporary feeds like temp lights.

As for being more costly, I'd have to assume that might be true.
Who does it in NM, and whats it cost per opening.
Who does it in EMT and whats it cost per opening.
This may not be a perfect pole, since the prices may be different because of economics of the area.
How much of a break the contractor gives at selling time, I have no idea.
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Hillsbourogh California also calls for conduit.No MC except to uner cabinet lights.
As far as cost just imagine doing four times the work,with higher material costs.
As far as indoor plumbing we have had that for years.
 
Just giving a educated guess that its about $50 an opening around here, lets not count the cost of circuits, and the service.
I'm sure there are lower and higher prices.
Are NM opening that much lower? I,m really currious.

Edit to add: We use AC and MC for fishing into exsisting walls and ceilings, not open work.
 
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russ said:
Just giving a educated guess that its about $50 an opening around here, lets not count the cost of circuits, and the service.
I'm sure there are lower and higher prices.
Are NM opening that much lower? I,m really currious.

Edit to add: We use AC and MC for fishing into exsisting walls and ceilings, not open work.
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We get more then that per opening for NM. Conduit is one he-- of alot more.
 
russ said:
Yes. IT's true.
Also true for most areas in the surrounding suburbs.
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This idea is enforced by the same losers who set the speed limit at 55 when everyone on the road is safely doing 80. Politicians. Are the people of Chicago too stupid to know that they're getting ripped off? Conduit in a one family dwelling for 3X, 4X, 5X, 10X the price of NM. Sounds like someone is getting their pockets filled.
 
I think it's a GREAT idea.

The average Homer would be clueless,possibly, resulting in more work for me.
 
infinity said:
Conduit in a one family dwelling for 3X, 4X, 5X, 10X the price of NM. Sounds like someone is getting their pockets filled.
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Don't be so sure. It would probably cost me 3 or 4 or 5 times the NM cable price to install EMT in a wood framed, single family dwelling. It is a more expensive procedure, but it would hardly line my pockets, anymore than doing any sort of expensive work would. Expensive work necessarily has a higher net profit, but it's not my fault that EMT in a wood framed dwelling is expensive to install.
 
celtic said:
I think it's a GREAT idea.

The average Homer would be clueless,possibly, resulting in more work for me.
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More work is fine, but saying that on this side of a city border that you can't use products that they've been using safely for 50-60 years on the other side of the border is just criminal. When certain decisions are made for political reasons someone is getting hosed.
 
mdshunk said:
Don't be so sure. It would probably cost me 3 or 4 or 5 times the NM cable price to install EMT in a wood framed, single family dwelling. It is a more expensive procedure, but it would hardly line my pockets, anymore than doing any sort of expensive work would. Expensive work necessarily has a higher net profit, but it's not my fault that EMT in a wood framed dwelling is expensive to install.
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I didn't mean to imply that it's the guy doing the job lining his pockets, but the guys who made the law in the first place.
 
infinity said:
More work is fine, but saying that on this side of a city border that you can't use products that they've been using safely for 50-60 years on the other side of the border is just criminal. When certain decisions are made for political reasons someone is getting hosed.
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In that same vein, does NYC allow RX in a SFH?
 
Trevor,
Conduit in a one family dwelling for 3X, 4X, 5X, 10X
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The cost is only about 1.25 x an NM job. I have been told that there will be a presentation at the ROC meeting showing that Chicago has a much lower rate of dwelling unit fires than other parts of the country and that one of the reasons that this is so is the "pipe" code.
Don
 
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