Chiropractor vs. 517.13

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sandsnow

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So what do you guys think???
Is a chiro office a Health Care Facility??
It meets the definition of a General Care area.

I'm asking for compliance with 517.13 here. Were having a little debate about it in the office.

Just wanted input from those who are never shy about their opinion ;) thanks
 
Re: Chiropractor vs. 517.13

I can't say for CA., but the last one I wired (1993/4 ~ in NJ) we were required to use MC in the PC area.
 
Re: Chiropractor vs. 517.13

Originally posted by celtic:
MC...but only in the PC area. Everywhere else was AC.
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This goes directly against the requirements.

MC only provides one ground path, hospital type AC provides two, the copper conductor and the sheath.
 
Re: Chiropractor vs. 517.13

Originally posted by iwire:
Originally posted by celtic:
MC...but only in the PC area. Everywhere else was AC.
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This goes directly against the requirements.

MC only provides one ground path, hospital type AC provides two, the copper conductor and the sheath.
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Was that even available in '93/94?
 
Re: Chiropractor vs. 517.13

Originally posted by celtic:
MC...but only in the PC area. Everywhere else was AC.
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Absolutly butt backwards. :D

Roger
 
Re: Chiropractor vs. 517.13

Originally posted by websparky:
Read the definition of Patient Care Area and the following explanations. You will see that this qualifies.
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It can only meet the definition of Patient Care Area if it also meets the definition of Health Care Facilities - and Health Care Facilities can only be interpreted in the context of Section 517.1, which unfortunately, is circular. (Inclusion under,"...but are not limited to...," is always a weak argument.)

However; chiropractic is recognized in the California Business and Professions Code as a "healing art" and is regulated by the in the California Department of Consumer Affairs as are the other professions listed in the definition of Health Care Facilities.

In my opinion for similar patient care functions Chiropractic areas need to meet 517.13.
 
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Roger thanks for the quick reply, just ready to post a bit of confusion :confused:
Absolutly butt backwards.
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Had the exact same situation , a chiro office. Applicable was 517.13B so alot of 12-2 mc hospital grade with an insulated ground was used.

Mike
 
Re: Chiropractor vs. 517.13

I had the same debate in my office not long ago. We determined that if the chiro had electrical equipment to use on the patient, we would ask for hcf cable. Hopefully the ec can get info he needs to get the job done right.
 
Re: Chiropractor vs. 517.13

Mjc, look closely at the cable you are talking about, you will most likely see that it is HCFC or HFC which is an AC highbrid. Although HG MC is a new product, I don't know if it is listed or available yet.


Roger
 
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