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Thanks for that info.

Thanks for that info.

dclauria said:
In our jurisdiction Halo RL series LED trims - RL560 and RL460 trims have been approved for use in a "closet storage space" - directly over a closet shelf - no clearance.

http://www.cooperindustries.com/con...sheets/halo-rl56-600series-td518021en-sss.pdf

See the attached spec sheet above under "compliance"

I'm not speaking of UL listing with other manufacturers housings - just Halo products.
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What a shame, The supply houses could not answer that question for me.
 
dclauria said:
In our jurisdiction Halo RL series LED trims - RL560 and RL460 trims have been approved for use in a "closet storage space" - directly over a closet shelf - no clearance.
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For the rest of us, those fixtures can NOT be placed inside the closet storage space. The "Compliance" section of that spec sheet cites "410.16 (C)(3)", which requires 6 inches between the fixture and closet storage area.

If it could go inside the storage area it would have instead claimed 410.16 (C)(5)

The only such light I've found is Legrande's 277FL. And the brochure doesn't speak to whether it satisfied C- 410 (C)(5), but I called Legrand, and was told that out does.
 
Netpog said:
For the rest of us, those fixtures can NOT be placed inside the closet storage space. The "Compliance" section of that spec sheet cites "410.16 (C)(3)", which requires 6 inches between the fixture and closet storage area.

If it could go inside the storage area it would have instead claimed 410.16 (C)(5)

The only such light I've found is Legrande's 277FL. And the brochure doesn't speak to whether it satisfied C- 410 (C)(5), but I called Legrand, and was told that out does.
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I disagree. (5) only deals with surface mounted luminaires not recessed. If an LED recessed trim has been specifically tested and UL listed for use in the closet storage space (like the 2 Halo models above) it does not have to comply with any of the storage space restrictions. Otherwise it would defeat the reason for special testing and listing.
 
I also say that this trim is not suitable for use over the closet storage space. Look at the specific code sections- they state 6" etc....

It also states for use in closets but it does not state over storage areas
 
Dennis Alwon said:
I also say that this trim is not suitable for use over the closet storage space. Look at the specific code sections- they state 6" etc....

It also states for use in closets but it does not state over storage areas
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Interesting that when I open the spec sheets links in this topic it just states closets. I have used 1000's of these trims over the years and have seen storage space marked on the box. I did some looking around Halo's web site and found another spec sheet for the same trims that state they comply with 410.16(C)(5)

The wording for this section is confusing and I think the manufactures are having a hard time with it too.
 
The problem is that the storage area is not the entire closet but just the area where defined in art. 410. Most fixtures are not rated for over the storage area. They do make an LED closet rod that would work in the closet space.

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I agree that the storage space is not the entire closet. The Halo RL56 series specifically state they comply with 410.16(C)(5) which allows fixtures identified for use in the storage space.

410.16(C)(5)
Surface-mounted fluorescent or LED luminaires shall be
permitted to be installed within the closet storage space
where identified for this use.
 
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