Clothes Closets

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Are receptacles allowed in clothes closets? Coming up through the trade in South Florida we were never allowed to install receptacles in clothes closets. Now I'm living in the middle of the country and it seems to be the norm to install them. I can't find anything in the code that says that you can't install them.
 
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Yes, there are no prohibitions from installing receptacles in clothes closets. :)

Make it a habit to ask inspectors to cite a code reference when you are tagged for odd things, it helps to cut down on this. ;)
 
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George is correct, some closets are big enough to entertain in, so there may even be more than one receptacle. I know of a closet with a CATV jack in it so while any ironing is taking place the ironer can watch the tube.

Roger
 
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Originally posted by roger:
George is correct, some closets are big enough to entertain in, so there may even be more than one receptacle. I know of a closet with a CATV jack in it so while any ironing is taking place the ironer can watch the tube.

Roger
Some "closets" are enormous. I'm going to be roughing a house that has a "master closet" approximately 18 x 18 wityh a double window off of the master bathroom. I don't think that the NEC defines clothes closet, but the blueprints of this house list this room as a master closet, so I'll be treating it as such. It could just as well a sitting room. If I treat it as a closet, I will not be able to install recessed lights with open trims, small chandelier, track lighting with open lamps, etc. I don't think any of those will present a safety concern but will not be permitted since it a "closet". It will have all built in shelving which more resembles furniture.

Anybody up for a proposal for 2011?
 
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Originally posted by scnkapc:
Are receptacles allowed in clothes closets? Coming up through the trade in South Florida we were never allowed to install receptacles in clothes closets. Now I'm living in the middle of the country and it seems to be the norm to install them. I can't find anything in the code that says that you can't install them.
Disregard anything you learned in Florida.
 
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We install receptacles in closets for security systems ,ONQ systems etc.So I guess it`s don`t believe what you learn in south Florida :D
 
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If people are concerned about the proximity of clothes to a receptacle in a closet, they should look around some bedrooms.... I see more clothes in the bedroom on the floor and all over the place, than you sometimes see in the closet :D .
I have made inspections where I wrote a comment on the sheet saying "too much debris to make proper inspection". I can show you pictures ;) .
Receptacles in closets are fine.
 
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Originally posted by j_erickson:
Originally posted by roger:
George is correct, some closets are big enough to entertain in, so there may even be more than one receptacle. I know of a closet with a CATV jack in it so while any ironing is taking place the ironer can watch the tube.

Roger
Some "closets" are enormous. I'm going to be roughing a house that has a "master closet" approximately 18 x 18 wityh a double window off of the master bathroom. I don't think that the NEC defines clothes closet, but the blueprints of this house list this room as a master closet, so I'll be treating it as such. It could just as well a sitting room. If I treat it as a closet, I will not be able to install recessed lights with open trims, small chandelier, track lighting with open lamps, etc. I don't think any of those will present a safety concern but will not be permitted since it a "closet". It will have all built in shelving which more resembles furniture.

Anybody up for a proposal for 2011?
I currently have this problem! The closet has 18 recessed lights and the "closet" is so big that the nearest lights are going to be at least 24" away from shelves/cloths rods/storage space but we are using shower trims to satisfy the code.
Since the NEC defines "storage space" and the "closet" is so large could I consider the area between the two "storage spaces" to not be part of the "storage space" and install trims that do not enclose the lamp?
 
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I'm doing a house at this very moment in which the designer requests a rec inside each closet in the home for plugging in rechargeable gear. Seems like a fine enough idea to me, I'm considering adopting it as one of my standard practices.
 
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I have wired and Inspected from Florida to Indiana, the only electrical code restrictions are lighting and overcurrent devices in clothing closets. Also, I have noticed a lot of misinterpretation of the code by inspectors due to a lack of continuing education. By the way, I am a licensed Electrician and a Certified Electrical Inspector "education is constantly on my schedule.
 
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I don't see a code violation, but I don't think I would want to use a rec in a closet for charges. I can just see that pile of cloths on top of the charger.

Maybe some people aren't as messy as I am. :(
 
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Do others find some owners wanting cans in clothes closets ? Recently had one complaing about how poor the lighting was.I warned the builder on rough that this was a bad choice.
 
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If you use the reflector-type of compact fluorescents, you can go up to 120- or even 150-watt incandescent-equivalent bulbs without exceeding the shower-lens-equipped can/trim combination wattage rating.

Trust me, they're plenty bright, and whiter than most typical fluorescents, for customers who don't care for the usually-too-blue light.
 
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Originally posted by LarryFine:
If you use the reflector-type of compact fluorescents, you can go up to 120- or even 150-watt incandescent-equivalent bulbs without exceeding the shower-lens-equipped can/trim combination wattage rating.

Trust me, they're plenty bright, and whiter than most typical fluorescents, for customers who don't care for the usually-too-blue light.
Our biggest complaint is that most shower trims are uglier than sin. As soon as a customer sees them they complain. We have used a trim with a clear glass lens when esthetics are a concern and they provide a lot more light than the ugly opaque shower trims. Admittedly they are somewhat expensive.
 
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Originally posted by jimwalker:
How legal would this be since they are not listed for use in the cans i seen.Yes they work and they are in mine .
I'm assuming that you're referring too those fluorescent lamps with a medium base. I've wondered about this too since the lamp type is not listed on the trim by the manufacturer. Are those replacement fluorescent lamps generally permitted in a fixture designed for A, R or PAR lamps?
 
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Another common use for receptacle outlets in clothes closets is for plugging in a de-humidifier to keep mildew from growing on your clothes. (big problem closer you get to the equator).
 
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Originally posted by infinity:
Are those replacement fluorescent lamps generally permitted in a fixture designed for A, R or PAR lamps?
I have a 3-pak of 120-watt-equivalent reflectors on my desk. Actual power is 23 watts. They are identified as R-40's, and it also says "replaces standard BR-40 reflectors."

So, I'd say that an R-40 at 23 watts is an approved bulb for most 6" cans, with most trims.
 
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[/qb][/QUOTE]I currently have this problem! The closet has 18 recessed lights and the "closet" is so big that the nearest lights are going to be at least 24" away from shelves/cloths rods/storage space but we are using shower trims to satisfy the code.
Since the NEC defines "storage space" and the "closet" is so large could I consider the area between the two "storage spaces" to not be part of the "storage space" and install trims that do not enclose the lamp? [/QB][/QUOTE]

Unfortuantley the NEC doesn`t give a max height above the storage area so as long as you keep ,your clearances 6 in flour.12 in COVERED incandescent you will be ok.
Some homes are just ridiculous in size.I headed one 32,000 sq 2,500 sq MBR and a 2 story closet. 800 a service and for 3 people :D
I was more worried about the recessed cans over the indoor pool than anythjing on the job.
 
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