mbrooke
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DIYs will keep on DIYing:
Code Doesn't Stop the "Unqualified"
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mbrooke
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romex jockey
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i really should take a more 'farm' shots around here..... 
~RJ~
~RJ~
mbrooke
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i really should take a more 'farm' shots around here.....
They'd be a riot around here lol.
jmellc
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I’ve seen lots of that & worse. Much of what I saw was before I had a phone with a camera.
mbrooke
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That would be quantum observation. Merely being able to document or observe something makes the electrons assume better states of behavior and in turn probabilistic outcome 
LarryFine
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Unfortunately, the first picture is all too real. Years ago, I got a call from a customer whose son was badly shocked when he touched the range and the kitchen sink. I discovered the power cord was fed through a hole in the floor.
Under the house, I found that, apparently during a kitchen remodel where the range was moved to another wall (farther from the panel), someone had fed the range cable up through the floor and into the wiring compartment.
The plug end had been "connected" to the original cable by passing a single copper strand through the hole in each prong and twisting it around itself, then taped over. All of this was just hanging with no support of any kind.
I opened the wiring compartment, I found no cable clamp, and the weight had apparently pulled the neutral wire of the power cord (3-wire) out of the crimped-on terminal, leaving the cabinet of the range ungrounded and energized.
Under the house, I found that, apparently during a kitchen remodel where the range was moved to another wall (farther from the panel), someone had fed the range cable up through the floor and into the wiring compartment.
The plug end had been "connected" to the original cable by passing a single copper strand through the hole in each prong and twisting it around itself, then taped over. All of this was just hanging with no support of any kind.
I opened the wiring compartment, I found no cable clamp, and the weight had apparently pulled the neutral wire of the power cord (3-wire) out of the crimped-on terminal, leaving the cabinet of the range ungrounded and energized.
mbrooke
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mbrooke
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After a while you learn to laugh at it. You have too, otherwise you lose any and all mental health.
Fred B
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And this is why the are saying GFCI on 50A and under
petersonra
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I have seen stuff that is just as bad done by journeymen electricians.
jmellc
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My first job was with 1 of the major players in NC. They did everything from light bulbs to power plants. 1 of our leading foremen in industrial work called our crew to straighten out some things at his house. He sort of admitted that he’d hacked a few things over the years & he really had. Nothing bare /live but lots of splices without boxes, etc.
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