Colored Romex NM ?

[Sierrasparky]

I was looking at a Canadian Big orange link from another post and started snooping around.
I saw Blue 14-2 add claimed for Arc fault
They also have RED 12-2 ?

Anyone know about this stuff?
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=1&Ntk=level1&langId=-15&Dx=mode%20matchall&catNav=3&storeId=10051&Ntx=mode%20matchall&N=131518&catalogId=10051&Nty=1

 

[480sparky]

I was looking at a Canadian Big orange link from another post and started snooping around.
I saw Blue 14-2 add claimed for Arc fault
They also have RED 12-2 ?

Anyone know about this stuff?
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/...=mode matchall&N=131518&catalogId=10051&Nty=1

Which of the 18 items are you speaking about?

 

[Sierrasparky]

Which of the 18 items are you speaking about?

Red 12-2
blue 14-2 Note it says Arc fault?

 

[cpal]

From southwire NM http://www.southwire.com/retail/simpullTHHN.htm
NonMetallic sheathed cable, building wire. (See also Nonmetallic-Sheathed Cable).
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NMC
NonMetallic sheathed cable, Corrosion resistant, used in wet or dry location up to 60?C.
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NMD90
Non Metallic, Dry rated 90? C, 300 volt rated
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310.11 (C) Suffixes to Designate Number of Conductors. A type letter or letters used alone shall indicate a single insulated conductor. The letter suffixes shall be indicated as follows:
(1) D — For two insulated conductors laid parallel within an outer nonmetallic covering
(2) M — For an assembly of two or more insulated conductors twisted spirally within an outer nonmetallic covering

 

[Sierrasparky]

From southwire NM http://www.southwire.com/retail/simpullTHHN.htm
NonMetallic sheathed cable, building wire. (See also Nonmetallic-Sheathed Cable).
return to index

NMC
NonMetallic sheathed cable, Corrosion resistant, used in wet or dry location up to 60?C.
return to index

NMD90
Non Metallic, Dry rated 90? C, 300 volt rated
return to index



310.11 (C) Suffixes to Designate Number of Conductors. A type letter or letters used alone shall indicate a single insulated conductor. The letter suffixes shall be indicated as follows:
(1) D ? For two insulated conductors laid parallel within an outer nonmetallic covering
(2) M ? For an assembly of two or more insulated conductors twisted spirally within an outer nonmetallic covering

Really does not answer the color question. Does Canada require blue for Arc Fault circuits?

 

[Mgraw]

Red=(heatex) electric heat
Blue= afci
It is not code but a manufacturer is trying to set their own standard.

 

[Sierrasparky]

Red=(heatex) electric heat

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Humm why red for electric heat?

 

[Mgraw]

Don't know but it has a red wire and black wire with a bare ground, no neutral.

 

[kbsparky]

BEWARE of the Canadian romex. NM-D has a reduced ground wire, and is not suitable for any wiring in the US! Their 12-2 has a #14 ground, for example.

 

[Mgraw]

Nexans(the manufacturer) says it is colored red so you would know it does not have a neutral and cannot be used on 125v circuits.

 

[Sierrasparky]

Makes sense not to have a nuetral. Makes for easy idenification of 240v circuits.

 

[Sierrasparky]

Boy would a #14 ground be great for gounds at switches if you use #12nm

 

[kbsparky]

Them Canadians have it good, they can even install kitchen and laundry circuits using #14 .... :roll:

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

Sounds like good idea but it is making it more costly to keep them all on the truck. Also if you don't do houses often it leaves you with added wasted material. Glad i dont do houses anymore. Keeps geting harder and harder

 

[Volta]

Them Canadians have it good, they can even install kitchen and laundry circuits using #14 .... :roll:

Well it's cold up there . . . that makes it safer

 

[jmellc]

I agree, too much to keep up with. I do like what we have here now with the white 14, yellow 12 and orange 10 cables. Quick and easy to spot when needed. I use to see 14 and 12 get mixed up a lot, never now. Easier to track existing ckts too, following ckts around in crawlspaces.

I've seen ads now for nm with 2h, 2n, labeled as 12-2-2. Carry 1 HR to kit and split at boxes, don't have to use dp breaker. Saves a little time with HR wires.

 

[TOOL_5150]

Im gutting a house now and has the old white #12 romex... the 12/3 is as big as todays 10/3

I miss the old wire. That stuff would never tear, and it just seemed softer to work with.

~Matt

 

[ty]

Who would want to stock the RED stuff.

It seems to make more sense to have less waste by stocking standard 2-conductor and re-identifying the WHITE.
More waste = Not good.

 

[jetlag]

Don't know but it has a red wire and black wire with a bare ground, no neutral.

They use it for 208/240 v baseboard and wall heaters , so dont need neutral, but we shouldn't concern ourselves, we cant use the #14 ground here , but there was a time we could use it. I think it is nice and neat not to have to tape the neutral black for hot. If the NEC gets wind of this they might well decide to get a different color wire for the arc fault and they will probably wish U S had thought of it first, anything to make things more complicated.

 

[jetlag]

Red=(heatex) electric heat

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Humm why red for electric heat?

Well red is a common color for fire and heat, like fire trucks