Comercial Kitchens & GFCI Protection

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I am about to finish a pretty good size comercial kitchen (THANK GOD). There are several areas where 208v, 480v twist locks for various equipment is 6' or closer to prep sinks, dishwashers and other water supplied equipment. The plant electricians are telling me that these power outlets need to be GFCI protected, please tell me that they are mistaken. I am changing the conveniece outlets even though I'm not sure that I need to, do I. :p :confused:
 
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Edit: Can someone post the 2005 210.8(B)?

Does it say "single phase" too? That's silly.

NEC-2002 210.8(B) Other Than Dwelling Units. All 125-volt, single-phase,15- and 20-ampere receptacles installed in the locations specified in (1), (2), and (3) shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel:
(1) Bathrooms
(2) Rooftops
(3) Kitchens
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Only the 120V receptacles require GFCI protection.

[ June 22, 2005, 08:05 AM: Message edited by: georgestolz ]
 
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210.8 (B) Other Than Dwelling Units. All 125-volt, single-phase, 15- and 20-ampere receptacles installed in the locations specified in (1) through (5) shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel:
(1) Bathrooms
(2) Commercial and institutional kitchens ? for the purposes of this section, a kitchen is an area with a sink and permanent facilities for food preparation and cooking
(3) Rooftops
(4) Outdoors in public spaces?for the purpose of this section a public space is defined as any space that is for use by, or is accessible to, the public

[ June 22, 2005, 03:26 PM: Message edited by: jwelectric ]
 
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Thanks, Mike. :)
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So only "single phase" 120V receptacles need protection?

Pardon me as I go puke. :roll:
 
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Originally posted by georgestolz:
So only "single phase" 120V receptacles need protection?
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George there is a reason for this.

Accident data showed the need for protection of these standard 120 volt outlets.
 
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Originally posted by jwelectric:
George
Did you get drunk again????
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Well, it was 7:40 PM when he posted that...thats not too early is it?

It reminds me of when Roger and I go to lunch!
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[ June 22, 2005, 11:13 PM: Message edited by: ryan_618 ]
 
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I could be cross-eyed, but isn't a standard 120V receptacle supplied from a 120/208 3? supply a "3? 120V receptacle?"

I know I'm being too literal, but I think CMP-2 is overwriting again.
 
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Ryan, I'll see you at noon. ;)

Roger
 
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Originally posted by jwelectric:
George
Hope you are feeling better.
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I can get angry and retain my sense of humor to a degree. :)

I get angry, write a biting diatribe, and then leave it and move on. Unless I'm still fuming when I get to work. :D
 
Ragin,

Yes, 210.8(B)(2) requires all 125-volt, single phase, 15- and 20-ampere receptacles installed in a commercial kitchen to be GFCI protected. The exception for "not readily accessible" does not apply to 210.8(B)(2).

Chris
 
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georgestolz said:
I could be cross-eyed, but isn't a standard 120V receptacle supplied from a 120/208 3? supply a "3? 120V receptacle?"
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The receptacle doesn't know anything about its source of power. It can get 120 volts from a 120 volt single phase source, or from a 120/240 single phase source, or from one phase conductor and one grounded conductor of a 120/208 volt source. In all cases, the receptacle remains a single phase device.
 
georgestolz said:
I guess what my point was, back when I wrote that, is this: Is there any such thing as a 3? 120V receptacle? :?:
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If it is connected to a 120y/70 volt system. :lol:

Sorry George, couldn't help myself.

How would it be connected to be listed as such?

Roger
 
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