Commercial Kitchen GFCI Requirement?

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480sparky said:
An occasional POS station is the only occurance I can see the 'need' for an IG recep.
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Me too, but they are coming built into the cook lines. Also if the drive up window is next to the kitchen area then it is in the kitchen / food prep area. I'm not one to let them start playing games by calling it something else. Same with the front registers.
 
cowboyjwc said:
Me too, but they are coming built into the cook lines. Also if the drive up window is next to the kitchen area then it is in the kitchen / food prep area. I'm not one to let them start playing games by calling it something else. Same with the front registers.
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Depends on if you're wiring a 'restaurant', or a 'fast-food joint'.
 
480sparky said:
Depends on if you're wiring a 'restaurant', or a 'fast-food joint'.
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Whats the difference? 210 does not differentiate the two. I would look at the art. 100 def.

Kitchen. An area with a sink and permanent facilities for food preparation and cooking.
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Doesn't this cover both?
 
chris kennedy said:
Whats the difference? 210 does not differentiate the two. I would look at the art. 100 def.


Doesn't this cover both?
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A 'restaurant' is likely to have POSs at the front door, a take-out counter, the bar area, the managers office and a couple of waitress stations. Last restaurant I did had 9 POSs, but only one in the kitchen.

A 'fast-food joint' will have all the POSs behind the counter, technically in the kitchen.
 
Yes I will agree that there is a difference. I was thinking fast food when I answered since I just did a final at a Taco Bell this afternoon and just finished doing a Del Taco last week.

In a fast food you almost have to consider everything behind the counter as kitchen or food prep. In a resturant, there is usually a clear distinction.
 
cschmid said:
I can see where the outlets will end up..most owners are more Leary of working in panels then they are of changing an outlet..
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Oh I get it now, your trying to prevent people screwing up your work in the future............. forget it, you can't. :) If they want to mess with stuff after I am inspected and gone I really don't care.
 
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iwire said:
Oh I get it now, your trying to prevent people screwing up your work in the future............. forget it, you can't. :) If they want to mess with stuff after I am inspected and gone I really don't care.
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Not only do we install it we service them as well..I am looking out for the bottom dollar in the future for our customers..that is why earlier I was happy for the leakage current info as I had not known about it..oh yea and I know we can not idiot proof life..
 
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