concept of braking in VFDs

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The "R1, R2" refer to the FRAME SIZES of that drive. In that cart, Frame Sizes R1 and R2 have terminals marked BRK+ and BRK- that are used to terminate the wires for the braking resistor because the brake CHOPPER is on-board those two frame sizes.

But if you are using Frame Sizes R3 or R4 (actually any size ABOVE R2), they do NOT have the Brake Chopper included in the drive, so they give you DIFFERENT terminal numbers, UDC+ and UDC-, for connecting a braking CHOPPER, or a Braking Module that is the chopper + resistors together. Here is what it explains to you in a later portion of the manual, entitled "Brake Components (page 295 of the verion I have)"

Availability
Braking availability for ACS550 drives, by frame size is:
• R1 and R2 – a built-in brake chopper is standard equipment. Add appropriate
resistor, as determined using the following section. Resistors are available from
ABB.
• R3...R6 – does not include an internal brake chopper. Connect a chopper and a
resistor, or a brake unit to the DC link terminals on the drive. Contact your ABB
representative for appropriate parts

You did not indicate what size of VFD you are looking at, so we have no idea of knowing whether your drive does or does not have a brake chopper already.

In no case does the ACS-550 offer Line Regenerative Braking options though. For that, you must order the ACS 800, and there is a specific "variant" that you must also specify to get it. I can't remember, but I think it is variant "14" maybe?
 

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The "R1, R2" refer to the FRAME SIZES of that drive. In that cart, Frame Sizes R1 and R2 have terminals marked BRK+ and BRK- that are used to terminate the wires for the braking resistor because the brake CHOPPER is on-board those two frame sizes.

But if you are using Frame Sizes R3 or R4 (actually any size ABOVE R2), they do NOT have the Brake Chopper included in the drive, so they give you DIFFERENT terminal numbers, UDC+ and UDC-, for connecting a braking CHOPPER, or a Braking Module that is the chopper + resistors together. Here is what it explains to you in a later portion of the manual, entitled "Brake Components (page 295 of the verion I have)"



You did not indicate what size of VFD you are looking at, so we have no idea of knowing whether your drive does or does not have a brake chopper already.

In no case does the ACS-550 offer Line Regenerative Braking options though. For that, you must order the ACS 800, and there is a specific "variant" that you must also specify to get it. I can't remember, but I think it is variant "14" maybe?

that means acs550 do not have provision of regenerative braking, and acs800 has.
 

Abhi

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Can anyone please give me study material for ac drives in which topics such as construction, working principle, components used.
and more details such as how much voltage DC bus has during motoring and braking process for a 3 phase 415VAC.

and how much threshold voltage is set in DC bus beyond which extra energy is dissipated.

I have ABB manual but dont have such details in it.
 

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Can anyone please give me study material for ac drives in which topics such as construction, working principle, components used.
and more details such as how much voltage DC bus has during motoring and braking process for a 3 phase 415VAC.

and how much threshold voltage is set in DC bus beyond which extra energy is dissipated.

I have ABB manual but dont have such details in it.
A good undzerstanding of induction motors is a good place to start from. I guess I was lucky in that my lecturer on machine theory was a motor designer in a previous life.
This from AB on PWM inverters might help:

http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/wp/drives-wp002_-en-p.pdf
 

Abhi

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A ABB drive with model no: acs800-04-0210-3+P901+D150+N652 which is installed in crane for main hoist of capacity 100 ton
so i want know which card is used for what and its uses. i have enclosed few pictures of the card

And another question is that what is "watchdog" in drive and for what purpose it is used?
 

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Besoeker

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A ABB drive with model no: acs800-04-0210-3+P901+D150+N652 which is installed in crane for main hoist of capacity 100 ton
so i want know which card is used for what and its uses. i have enclosed few pictures of the card

And another question is that what is "watchdog" in drive and for what purpose it is used?
You would need to address the question about what the cards are for to an ABB engineer or someone trained on them. I have designed just a few systems with them but none in recent years. Mostly we used Vacon, a company started by some e-ABB guys.

A watchdog is often a drive health check but maybe a different function on ABB drives.

Sorry - not much help on those Q's
 

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You would need to address the question about what the cards are for to an ABB engineer or someone trained on them. I have designed just a few systems with them but none in recent years. Mostly we used Vacon, a company started by some e-ABB guys.

A watchdog is often a drive health check but maybe a different function on ABB drives.

Sorry - not much help on those Q's
I agree with Besoeker here, you are now in the area of needing help from the manufacturer, not the kind of generalized help we can offer you from here. Please seek further assistance from your ABB contacts.
 

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A ABB drive with model no: acs800-04-0210-3+P901+D150+N652 which is installed in crane for main hoist of capacity 100 ton
so i want know which card is used for what and its uses. i have enclosed few pictures of the card

And another question is that what is "watchdog" in drive and for what purpose it is used?

Generically, a "watchdog" circuit is a fail safe output that changes state when the control or output circuitry or program is not working properly. In processor-based systems it is often used to hard reset the processor in the hope of recovering from a glitch or bug. In the case of a drive, it is likely to indicate that it is not safe to rely on the drive.
 

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Can anyone please give me study material for ac drives in which topics such as construction, working principle, components used.
and more details such as how much voltage DC bus has during motoring and braking process for a 3 phase 415VAC.

and how much threshold voltage is set in DC bus beyond which extra energy is dissipated.

I have ABB manual but dont have such details in it.


this is the text we used
 

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Generically, a "watchdog" circuit is a fail safe output that changes state when the control or output circuitry or program is not working properly. In processor-based systems it is often used to hard reset the processor in the hope of recovering from a glitch or bug. In the case of a drive, it is likely to indicate that it is not safe to rely on the drive.

sometimes it refers to a software block that monitors data comm (modbus, ethernet, etc) between say a vfd and plc
if comm or 'heartbeat' is lost the vfd is shutdown, etc
 
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