CONDUCTORS IN PARALLEL

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jjg

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ARE PARALLEL CONDUCTORS OF A THREE PASE SYSTEM ALLOWED TO BE RUN IN SEPERATE PVC CONDUITS EX:A PHASE IN ONE CONDUIT,B PHASE IN ANOTHER AND C PHASE IN THE LAST CONDUIT.
 

iwire

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Yes, sometimes, in very limited applications.

300.3(B)(1)
Exception: Conductors installed in nonmetallic raceways run underground shall be permitted to be arranged as isolated phase installations. The raceways shall be installed in close proximity, and the conductors shall comply with the provisions of 300.20(B).
It is important that you follow the requirements of 300.20(B).

I have done this for some services and it works well at the terminations as long as the number of sets is divisible by four (at least for 3 phase 4 wire installations).

[ July 14, 2003, 05:59 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]
 

websparky

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Re: CONDUCTORS IN PARALLEL

jjg,

iwire is correct and as he says, very limited for isolated installations.

I would be sure to get the AHJ's OK before installing isolated!

Dave
 

marissa2

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Re: CONDUCTORS IN PARALLEL

I missed that, but if is allowed only in limited applications why would you want too. I would still be afaird the wires would over heat.
 

roger

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Marissa, If installed in a noninductive wiring method and in close proximity to each other, what would cause the overheating?

Roger
 

gregoryelectricinc

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Overheating would only occur if you did something that was NOT allowed by NEC. (such as installing metal locknuts, terminating to a metal enclosure, etc. etc.) I have used this option to my advantage on a couple of occasions and yes, it is better, if your parralell runs are divisible by 4.The space it saves you in the bottom of an MDP is worth it. :)
 

iwire

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Originally posted by marissa2:
but if is allowed only in limited applications why would you want too.
The only application I have found this good for is for the service conductors from a padmount transformer and the switch gear inside.

Two times I have done this where identical 3000 amp switch gear that is bottom fed.

The lugs are close to the floor so room is tight to cross and keep the same length thirty two 500 kcmils.

If you do isolated phase you can bring the PVCs right in under the lugs with no crossing of conductors, at the transformer end there is plenty of space to cross.

Bob

[ July 14, 2003, 07:08 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]
 

el santo

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Re: CONDUCTORS IN PARALLEL

marrisa jut to add a little more and this is out of a text book, when the conductors are run in parrallel and the phases are isolated in a nonmetallic raceway per 300.5 (I). there is no inductive heating within these raceways. However the raceways shall not enter a metallic enclosure individually. this causes inductive heating of the metal where the individual phase conductors penetrate the enclosure
 
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