Contractors license: Good or bad

Most contractors around here would consider it a plus. 1 place I worked paid a $2 premium for having a license. They had a poster from the licensing board in their office, stating all the licensed employees. That was a bragging point to customers. A conscientious person uses his license to help the company, not hurt it.
 
Most contractors around here would consider it a plus. 1 place I worked paid a $2 premium for having a license. They had a poster from the licensing board in their office, stating all the licensed employees. That was a bragging point to customers. A conscientious person uses his license to help the company, not hurt it.
When you say license you do mean contractors license?
 
When the Oompa Loompas are too smart (qualified or whatever) it makes them hard to lie to and control. Think of a company pizza party, or a corporate pep rally. The people who enjoy that kind of stuff are who HR has their sights on
 
When the Oompa Loompas are too smart (qualified or whatever) it makes them hard to lie to and control. Think of a company pizza party, or a corporate pep rally. The people who enjoy that kind of stuff are who HR has their sights on
I remember a beach party in our office years ago, among other foolishness.
 
During my 50 enjoyable years as a sparky found that co-workers who had an electrucal.license were more up on the NEC due to mandatory CEU'S required to renew our yearly license.. Was not much difference running conduit, troubleshooting & boring job of installing luminaries between licensed & unlicensed electricians. Retired from a big rich hospital / research center that insisted all.of the electricians have a license but refused to.pay for the 8 yearly best in class IAEI that I attended on my own time because we got a meal. Between yearly membership & meeting it only cost $350 A year ( pre Pandemic ) . Same place stopped vendors from coming in a few tines a year and gave a maybe two hour lunch & learn on new products. Thought that by us accepting some free pizza or sandwiches & soda would favor them. I believe rather then demand a license companies should bring in qualified companies yearly on NEC,, safety , PPE & specific training like VFD'S.They expected me to trouble shoot a 4,160 volt new chiller that I never saw before, had no training and had to make seversl.phone calls to find out how to start it. Of course Manuel on it was in some engineers office.
 
Thought the same thing. So we were getting a self serve meal and coffee. Had an extra cheap facilities department boss. Electrical contractor were not fond of him. He would make changes on a $150,00 job then hold up payment for many months because work that he changed and a few of the special order luminaries he wanted were in back order but original work order was completed. He insisted that we would have to come in at midnight for some yearly maintenance and work 12 to 14 hours of straight time then come in & only work two hours another day. I would use two or four hours of PPL rather then come in for two to four hours.
 
Thought the same thing. So we were getting a self serve meal and coffee. Had an extra cheap facilities department boss. Electrical contractor were not fond of him. He would make changes on a $150,00 job then hold up payment for many months because work that he changed and a few of the special order luminaries he wanted were in back order but original work order was completed. He insisted that we would have to come in at midnight for some yearly maintenance and work 12 to 14 hours of straight time then come in & only work two hours another day. I would use two or four hours of PPL rather then come in for two to four hours.

You know I've heard those kinds of guys in meetings running their yap about how what guys like us know from working years in the field can be taught in a 6 month vo-tech course. and maybe 2 or 3 months as "a green hat" (new guy). I have news for them, kids don't grow up building tree houses, fixing bicycles, damming up the creek with rocks to make a swimming hole. They don't develop the mechanical skills and aptitude that past generations were learning just by what they did for play.

They think replacing a skilled tradesman is just slightly more costly than replacing a warehouse laborer. And I've seen who HR hires. Lots of old guys going out the door, lots of sharp young guys exiting too, What's coming in is well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

They only look at the recruiting and onboarding costs, maybe some training but not much. It's like they don't even think about downtime, expensive stuff getting destroyed, and all the perfectly serviceable components that end up in the scrap can, when they troubleshoot by firing the parts cannon
 
When we grew up we took our bicycles apart, then lawnmowers then cars. I know a guy that's 37 and can't change a bicycle tire. I think i could do that at 6 or 7
My secretary/cleaning woman or whatever she is got her apartment power shut off because she was broke. Climbed out her window with one run of what looked to be 12 MTW and tapped into a wall pack (working hot). Thing had a plug on the end plugged into one of her receptacles, but if she wanted to use one of the rooms, she had to plug it in to a different receptacle. When I met her, I went to her apartment to pick her up one day and there is this plug with one strand of black MTW going out the window. I'm like WTH.

Then she blew the outdoor lighting circuit starting her microwave and the lights went out. Jimmies the lock to the utility room and finds that there is no breaker for the outside lights, plug fuses. So she drives down here and I give her one and she goes back and changes it before anyone noticed.

These hillbilly girls from the coal region are a special breed
 
Glad I grow up with an electrician dad who never pushed me towards one field but when I showed a big interest first in Lincoln Logs, then our train sets and Erector sets he made sure to offer tips and even supplied me with a drawing at age ten how to wire in trains, train switches & lights in every Plasticville building. Had my first soldering iron by age 12. Way too many young kids do not know how to use a screwdriver or even know what clockwise direction is. Loved when my dad took.me with him & my electrician uncle to do a 100 amp service upgrade. Started as the goffer then swinging a 4 pound engineer hammer to make holes for 1/4" lead anchors When I attended a great Vo Tech school I had such a jump on the other electric shop students that the teacher would send me out to do small jobs in the school .
 
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