Cords above suspended ceiling

[tomito]

Hello everybody, I have been reading some threads about outlets above a suspended ceiling like this one:

Receptacle above hung ceiling

From what I remember a while back, receptacles are allowed above a hung ceiling and in particular a receptacle above a hung ceiling is OK for a ceiling mounted projector. I'm reading an article from EC&M about "The best of the worst: 2019's most interesting what's wrong here photos" and one of...

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What I have understood is that the cord is what is not permitted by 400.8 (2), isn't the same problem with spots like this?:

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What about that cord?

Tom

 

[roger]

The LED driver is part of a listed assembly and probably has an output voltage of 12 - 24v.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Hello everybody, I have been reading some threads about outlets above a suspended ceiling like this one:

Receptacle above hung ceiling

From what I remember a while back, receptacles are allowed above a hung ceiling and in particular a receptacle above a hung ceiling is OK for a ceiling mounted projector. I'm reading an article from EC&M about "The best of the worst: 2019's most interesting what's wrong here photos" and one of...

forums.mikeholt.com

What I have understood is that the cord is what is not permitted by 400.8 (2), isn't the same problem with spots like this?:

Switchable White Flat LED Wafer Canless Downlight - 4in, 6in, and 8in Canless Wafer Downlights

The 4-inch, 6-inch and 8-inch Wafer™ LED Flat Smooth Downlights with Switchable White features a switch for five easy color temperature adjustments – while eliminating the need for recessed housings.

www.acuitybrands.com

What about that cord?

Tom

My guess is that the cord is plenum rated so there isn't an issue.

A receptacle is allowed above a ceiling but, in general, that is used for service people not for a permanent cord installation

The innovative slim design allows for easy, remodel or new construction installation from below the ceiling and areas with shallow plenums.

 

[tomito]

The LED driver is part of a listed assembly and probably has an output voltage of 12 - 24v.

Probably you are right but I think 400.8 does not consider voltage.

 

[tomito]

My guess is that the cord is plenum rated so there isn't an issue.

A receptacle is allowed above a ceiling but, in general, that is used for service people not for a permanent cord installation

Maybe, but a plenum is a space designed to handle air from the AAC, what if somebody install it in a suspended ceiling not designed for air handling?