Cost to hang ceiling fan?

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iwire said:
It seems the electricians that can make the leap to businessman should put down the tools and hit that part of the business full time if their desire is to grow a business. :smile:
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Without a doubt that needs to happen. Furthermore, once you spend all your time on the business end of things there is no time left to do electrical work.

To me, one definition (not the only definition ;) ) of a successful business is having people work for me doing the electrical part so I don't have to. Not only that, I'm a hack so I shouldn't anyway. :D
 
For $150 dollars I will be happy to come out and install one of these in your house-
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Somebody posted installing attic fans for $300 dollars.. I have been charging $300 dollars to go WIRE them for a company that sells and installs them. That company charges over $1200 for their portion of the work. They sell a lot of jobs. They are thriving. You can too. If you search on E-Bay, there are good books on the subject of Service work for Dummies available for a very low and attractive price. Go buy one now before they are all gone......
 
iwire said:
I still don't think you understand me. :)

Why would anyone assume that just because someone is a good or even excellent electrician that they would automatically be able to turn that into a successfully business?

In my limited experience running a successful business has absolutely nothing to do with electrical installations.

I am at least a semi skilled electrician, I don't think any amount of training or research could make me a successfull business owner.

It seems the electricians that can make the leap to businessman should put down the tools and hit that part of the business full time if their desire is to grow a business. :smile:
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Change electrician to person, and preach on! I've seen many people who are very skilled at what they do fail as a business owner because they don't understand business, and won't hire someone or take classes.
 
quogueelectric said:
Havent you seen the 10 min fans at the big box stores? It says preassembled 10 min installation. 78 bucks
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it does install in 10 minutes! That time doesn't include anything but hanging and wiring it, so there's no removal, running wires, hanging boxes, switches, clean up, travel, etc.:roll:

Uh, feel free to use that one with your customers.:grin:
 
emahler said:
my guess, is sat knows that the real time is closer to 2.5 hours....don't forget the travel time from the shop to the job, or the time to acquire the fans.. if you have to run the wiring, it's even more...
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Oh good, I thought he might be going in that direction, but one can never really tell... except I should have known better....
 
It seems the electricians that can make the leap to businessman should put down the tools and hit that part of the business full time if their desire is to grow a business
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I did it a little differently. I kept the tools on and found someone to "run" the business. I was fortunate enough to understand and accept my place in life.
 
220/221 said:
I did it a little differently. I kept the tools on and found someone to "run" the business. I was fortunate enough to understand and accept my place in life.
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I'm with you. I'll never be able to put down the tools. It's an important part of my identity. I just wouldn't feel good about myself if I wasn't actually doing some "legitimate" work.
 
iwire said:
I still don't think you understand me. :)
It seems the electricians that can make the leap to businessman should put down the tools and hit that part of the business full time if their desire is to grow a business. :smile:
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You mean before they hurt themselves with thier tools??
 
iwire said:
..I am at least a semi skilled electrician, I don't think any amount of training or research could make me a successfull business owner.
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Necessity becomes the mother of invention. People learn the business from the same school of hard knocks. The beatings are not repeated indefinitely.

iwire said:
It seems the electricians that can make the leap to businessman should put down the tools and hit that part of the business full time if their desire is to grow a business. :smile:
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I started as a college student with a Business degree. My idealistic plans without a profession, skill, or family business to run went nowhere.

After investing some time in a marketable skill, I view the stages of small-business growth as inevitable. Personal banks and licensing departments hold peoples hands to the point where the prerequisite is only a bit of integrity and the ability to balance a checkbook.

Once your name gets registered with any kind of municipal, state license or DBA the hardest part is the unsolicited business services. Everyone wants a piece of my action, even though I have none. Some wont take "no" for an answer, some barely speak my language. It has been a sad affair to be the subject of such market desperation.

Credit card services, internet advertisers (hoaksters & scams), payroll services, insurance providers, and pre-texters just collecting my information. I've tried hanging up, cutting them off, but a new voice from the same agency calls right back. My best technique to keep them away is to convince them my clients can't use their product or service, then they stop for a while.

IMO, not getting fleeced and understanding local operator laws is the hardest part of small business. By saving my pennies, not being afraid to be an employee or learn for a short time, and growing slowly by using familiar & reliable local services, its quite possible build a small service shop one step at a time.
 
mdshunk said:
Hey Roger, don't suppose you want to buy 30 million Sawzall blades, do you? :grin:
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If it were anyone else, I'd convince them I've never used a Sawzall.
 
mdshunk said:
I'm with you. I'll never be able to put down the tools. It's an important part of my identity. I just wouldn't feel good about myself if I wasn't actually doing some "legitimate" work.
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I figure I'll give up working out in the field the day I go up in an attic and I can't get down.:)
 
220/221 said:
I did it a little differently. I kept the tools on and found someone to "run" the business. I was fortunate enough to understand and accept my place in life.
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That's what I want, no, have to do. How? :confused:
 
ItsHot said:
Well, I got the fans hung today. When I quoted the customer a price, I got the famous line...."how much do you charge an hour"?:)
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Response: "Well, here's the bill. Divide that by how long it took."
 
Oh btw 225 and that includes customer bought fan and a 3 wire control to switch whether or not all wires are used i refuse to put in 2 wire. Fansupport box of course.
 
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