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Thanks for reminding me of the GFCI rule for commercial kitchens. We're doing one next week!
What about the ice machine that is located outside of the kitchen? To GFI or not to GFI? That is the question!

Good luck Ryan!
 
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Bennie: The substantation to get the requirement into the code was due to an employee unplugging a piece of equipment to operate a cleaning device in the kitchen. She died.

What if the requirement was already in place and the inspector on that installation used 90.4 to waive teh GFCI? I would bet he wouldn't have a job right now, and he did it would be making license plates in Folsom Prison.

I don't think I'll use 90.4 for this.
 
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Ryan: You are probably correct, but the attorneys will apply 90.4 as a prevention of food spoiling.

I don't think an inspector is subjected to liability as much as you indicate.

Check the local laws about a citizen suing city hall.

To make an electrical installation 100 per cent safe, is very easy, cut down the drop. :eek:
 
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Originally posted by bennie:

I don't think an inspector is subjected to liability as much as you indicate.

I'll be honest with you Bennie, I agree. I just try not to think about it. Its easier to do my job beleiving that I am more vulnerable in the court of law. Thinking that I'm bulletproof is the kind of thing that would get me in trouble. :D
 
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Ryan: You're good :cool: Next career goal, politician.

This GFCI requirement needs revising, or all inspectors may have to eat the spoilage. :eek:
 
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Bennie
You refer to 90.4. That section is not there for the AHJ to change the code. it is there for unforseen areas and materials and changes that may occur during a code cycle.
To make a change in code requirements requires a signature. Any AHJ who is willing to sign off on changing a 'life safety' requirement is taking a very big risk.

Refering to 90.1 Purpose.
(A)The purpose if this Code is the practical safeguarding of persons and property from hazards arising from the use of electriciy.
(B) ... will result in an installation that is essentially free from hazard but not necessarily efficient, convenient, or adequate for good service ...

In a nutshell, the safety of personnel, not the spoilage of food is the concern here.

Take a visit to any restaurant after dinner and watch the help clean up the kitchen, and you will see the need for this requirement.

I highly doubt that the leakage current in a refrigerator is enough to cause the GFCI to trip. If the GFCI is not faulty, I would have some concerns if I plug in a refrigerator and it trips. I have had a fridge plugged into a GFCI and had no tripping occur.

Pierre
 
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