crimp connectors for grounding conductors

[Jesse7623]

Is it very uncommon to ue the Buchannan tool to crimp the bare Buchannan ground crimp sleeves?

 

[peter d]

I use the Greenies or make up a regular pigtail splice with a wirenut.

I hate the Buchanon style crimps with a passion.

 

[480sparky]

Do you mean this?

 

[surf more]

always crimp or greenies(pull it---slice--- dice ---crimp---roll em in)

 

[vinster888]

greenies rock. i used to gripe about them when they first came out. now i would be lost without them.

 

[Howard Burger]

Greenies OK for commercial work?

Greenies OK for commercial work?

The green wirenuts are fine when you have only one recep or switch to ground, but since we have to ground all switches, crimpies are the way to fly for multiple switches or recepts in a box. Question - does your AHJ allow greenies in commerical work? I've been told it's against code for commercial, but resi is OK. No company I've worked for (commercial) uses them. As to the tool, I use the Klein crimper tool - which is a 'listed' tool I guess (?).

 

[masterinbama]

The green wirenuts are fine when you have only one recep or switch to ground, but since we have to ground all switches, crimpies are the way to fly for multiple switches or recepts in a box. Question - does your AHJ allow greenies in commerical work? I've been told it's against code for commercial, but resi is OK. No company I've worked for (commercial) uses them. As to the tool, I use the Klein crimper tool - which is a 'listed' tool I guess (?).

Leave it long at loop from device to device.

 

[infinity]

Question - does your AHJ allow greenies in commerical work? I've been told it's against code for commercial, but resi is OK. No company I've worked for (commercial) uses them. As to the tool, I use the Klein crimper tool - which is a 'listed' tool I guess (?).

Why would a listed wire connector be OK for residential work but not commercial work?

 

[Karl H]

I hate crimp sleeves!!!!!

 

[Jesse7623]

Do you mean this?

yeah those things...never used them probably never will.I will stop using crimps long before I use that tool.

 

[infinity]

I hate crimp sleeves!!!!!

Ditto that.

 

[MarkyMarkNC]

We had a helper on a big commercial job one time that used greenies to twist together the hot wires on some 277V circuits.

Guess who found it before we did - the inspector.

I've never purchased Greenies since.

 

[tkb]

Do you mean this?

I worked for a guy when I was an apprentice that had us use these with the plastic snap on caps for all splices except for fixture connections.

For the fixture connections we used a connector that was brass with a setscrew and had a screw on cap. I think they called them Marr connectors.

 

[LarryFine]

I don't use them, but I have re-used them when they were already there, and sqished them with my Kleins.

 

[gndrod]

crimp in commercial

crimp in commercial

Why would a listed wire connector be OK for residential work but not commercial work?

Crimp bonding is not common in most commercial unless there is NM in the system. Crimping 410's are plain difficult using a Buchanan on stranded wire in commercial that does not use a separate grounding conductor as found in Romex.

As far as using greenies in residential, making up the bonding jumpers takes more time to makeup EGC connections to terminals in multiple switch outlets where one crimp is quicker. I guess the question I ask...is why would anyone use greenies on a commercial job where the conduit is the basic EGC? rbj

 

[LarryFine]

I guess the question I ask...is why would anyone use greenies on a commercial job where the conduit is the basic EGC?

MC or conduit with EGC.

 

[ultramegabob]

I have a T&B sta-kon kit, crimper and crimps....

 

[480sparky]

....... I guess the question I ask...is why would anyone use greenies on a commercial job where the conduit is the basic EGC? rbj

What do you do in a 2+ gang box?

 

[vinster888]

I guess the question I ask...is why would anyone use greenies on a commercial job where the conduit is the basic EGC? rbj

because i put a ground wire in every pipe i run. some fool goes behind you splits the pipe to get down to an outlet and bam its over rover.

 

[480sparky]

because i put a ground wire in every pipe i run. some fool goes behind you splits the pipe to get down to an outlet and bam its over rover.

"Splits" the pipe?????