Crimped connection - what do YOU do?

[360Youth]

I vote to leave it alone since it was working, but only if I am sure connections are proper. If I am working in a box, usually everything will be re-done new. If I notice a sorry connection in a box I am working on, it may cause me to randomly check other boxes and make evaluation from there. Very rare that happens, tho. (A bad connection that causes me to fret over others, that is. :smile: )

 

[220/221]

Simply replace them with wirenuts (if I need to add to the connection). If not, leave em alone.

 

[George Stolz]

However, I did loose some sleep.

I'd recommend to the homeowner that all the splices in the home should be checked out at considerable expense, and when they declined, I would sleep at night.

I also voted for clipping off the crimps and installing wirenuts in the box you have opened. You opened it, you took the tape off, you own it. The rest you have no moral responsibility for beyond telling the homeowner, IMO.

 

[quogueelectric]

I would be happy

I would be happy

That it wasnt old rubber insulation that desintegrated as soon as you looked at it and now had to heatshrink everything just to get the heck out of there. A few red/yellows is a small price to pay.

 

[cschmid]

That it wasnt old rubber insulation that desintegrated as soon as you looked at it and now had to heatshrink everything just to get the heck out of there. A few red/yellows is a small price to pay.

Boy can I agree with that statement..

 

[ceknight]

I'd recommend to the homeowner that all the splices in the home should be checked out at considerable expense, and when they declined, I would sleep at night.

I tried that on a job last month, and the customer said "do it". I was too sore to sleep that night.

 

[360Youth]

I tried that on a job last month, and the customer said "do it". I was too sore to sleep that night.

I've got one of those coming up, thanks for the encouraging words. :grin:

 

[mdshunk]

Me too, very well used, but never on solid. You dodged my question though,...I think. Would you be crimping or nutting in your new home?

I would, I do, and I will continue to do so. A crimp, when properly done with the correct crimp tool can be at least equal to, or superior to, any other connection type. I crimp all my grounds with crimp sleeves and the Buchannan 4-way crimper.

 

[wireman71]

I'd fix that POS box makeup so that I thought it was professional as possible when I was done. In this case, wirenuts or Wagos depending on length of conductor and not think twice bout it.

 

[iwire]

In this case, wirenuts or Wagos

See we are all so different, I would take the time tested crimps over Wagos any day and I am not fond of crimps on solid either ...... I just think Wagos are junk.

 

[wshoard]

I read thru this thread, and maybe I missed, it but did anyone notice that the crimp shown was not crimped with the correct tool?

Back in the day, Mid 70's, that is all we used in the plant I worked at.

 

[iwire]

I read thru this thread, and maybe I missed, it but did anyone notice that the crimp shown was not crimped with the correct tool? .

That has been mentioned by Marc but the requirement to use the correct tool is fairly recent.

By the way, not all require a 4 way tool.

 

[wshoard]

Bob.

IMHO, a properly made 4 way crimped connection is better than a wirenut connection, how do you feel about this?

 

[jrannis]

Take 3 seconds to remove it.
Twist the wires together & install a tan twister.
Then I sleep at night.

I dont think you should twist the wires together before using a tan twister the spring does the work. It might present a false sense of a secure splice if the wires are binding each other independent of the wirenut.

 

[electricmanscott]

I dont think you should twist the wires together before using a tan twister the spring does the work. It might present a false sense of a secure splice if the wires are binding each other independent of the wirenut.

Well then I have made thousands of improper splices. That is just crazytalk.

 

[iwire]

Bob.

IMHO, a properly made 4 way crimped connection is better than a wirenut connection, how do you feel about this?

Mechanically it is certainly more permanent then any other mechanical connection, it will not vibrate apart.

Electrically I think it would hard to say it is better or worse then a properly installed wire nut.

I am not a fan of crimp connections with solid conductors, if I had to use crimps with solid I would want to use a quality 4 way tool.

Most of my crimp work is in machine wiring and that is stranded conductors.

 

[jrannis]

Well then I have made thousands of improper splices. That is just crazytalk.

I know thanks,
I still like people that twist wires, It keeps be busy with service calls and I dont like to say much about it at least not until my kids college is paid for.

PS. read the box or bag they came in and see what it says.

 

[electricmanscott]

Am I back in the bizzarro forum.

Pretwisting causes bad connections and service calls? :grin: :grin: Yeah...OK.

 

[iwire]

IPS. read the box or bag they came in and see what it says.

Yeah it says no pre-twisting required.

It does not say prohibited. :smile:

Here from Ideal web site.

Features

Exceptional wire range capacity - only two sizes to stock

Swept-wing design for comfort and greater leverage

Live-action, square-wire spring

Hexagonal shape allows connectors to be applied with standard nutdriver

No pre-twisting required

UL Listed and CSA Certified

Reusable

Shell rated for 105? C

 

[Minuteman]

Am I back in the bizzarro forum.

Pretwisting causes bad connections and service calls? :grin: :grin: Yeah...OK.

Yeah, I'll stop pretwisting when they pry the Kleins out of my cold...

Wait, scratch that. I hope to retire before that point from all the money made from service calls caused by the non-pretwisters! :grin: