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Jim1959 said:
I'm looking to acquire a battery operated crimper, do you prefer the died or dieless style and why?
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i've got two different ones. a burndy YF-500 with copper dies to 500MCM

and a burndy patriot 12 ton, with dies for everything.
copper to 750, aluminum to 750, and a full set of grounding dies, plus some
odds and ends specialty dies.

i prefer dies 'cause starting about 5 years back, specs on stuff started requiring
a witness mark on the hypress, so you'd know they used the correct die.
universal, or dieless crimpers don't make as neat a crimp by far.

this was in response to the $79 harbor freight stuff.

the burndy stuff kicks butt. it's been around forever.

milwualkee and others have stuff out now in competition with burndy.
dunno how well it works. i'm guessing pretty well. most of the newer
milwualkee stuff is good.

the issue is cost. the full monty on burndy is 5 figures. i think what i've
got, the replacement cost at time of purchase was about $12k.
 
Having used both for everyday use I prefer the die type. Making a few crimps a few times a year the die-less is good enough.
 
Just bought the Burndy PATMD 6 ton with dies. Burndy rep let me play with several and it kept coming back to that one. Dieless leave a less than desirable crimp pattern that over time could wear through whatever you use for the insulator. I use both heat shrink and cold shrink. Witness marks are nice too.
I also bought the cutting head and that baby is sweet. Easy to get in tight spaces and fast.
 
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Hv&Lv said:
Milwaukee is coming out with some awesome stuff. Our industry is going to it pretty fast with the line they are coming out with now.
the 18V battery fits so many things.
The chainsaw will go through a cord of wood on one battery according to the manufacturer.
I’ve cut an entire tree up and a pole on a changeout with one battery. Nice not having to pull a cord.
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yeah. you still have to buy die sets however, and they cost.
i wish the burndy uses milwalkee batteries. it uses makita,
and they are just as good, but it's the only thing i have that uses them.

i'm about to put the burndy godzilla set up for sale along with
several thousand worth of hypress lugs in assorted flavors.
i've not used it in five years, and i'm not likely to need it again.
$15k worth of stuff for $5k oughta find a home somewhere.
it's in pristine condition.

the 18v chainsaw kicks ass.
i have one. i took out a cypress hedge 4' wide and 30' long,
cut it up small enough to put in the trash cans, and it was
about half of the big battery.

it goes in the back of the jeep if i'm going up in the woods.
no gas and stink in the jeep.
 
Fulthrotl said:
no gas and stink in the jeep.
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And THATS why I bought the chainsaw, leaf blower, and weed eater for my house.
also got rid of all my old 18V dewalt stuff, and replaced it with the Milwaukee 18 piece, the portaband(I know, brand. But you get the idea), is also an awesome piece of equipment for the job.
 
I like the expanded range of a dieless crimper. I can use a butt splice to connect type W cable to THWN conductors (and it will be a UL listed connection), AFAIK there are no die crimpers that can do that.

I also like that I don't have to keep up with dies.
 
You’d like the Anderson style dieless. It’s a hex crimp that looks as good as dies. This is not the lame single indent, quad indent, or crescent shape but a true hex crimp. Rare and expensive but you can do 35 kV molded elbows with one where every little imperfection blows out the connector.

But for the money a die crimper is more reasonable. We got a Greenlee CCX Pro because they are popular with line crews. It’s easy to find dies and parts like batteries.
 
paulengr said:
You’d like the Anderson style dieless. It’s a hex crimp that looks as good as dies. This is not the lame single indent, quad indent, or crescent shape but a true hex crimp.
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Get me me some numbers from it, if you would.
I’ve never seen an Anderson that is a dieless hex crimp.
I have a couple of the quad indent I never use. I use a die tool, but would be interested in that one your talking about.
The die I use on the 35kV elbows is the bg round.
 
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