hbiss
EC, Westchester, New York NEC: 2014
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CT Dish Installs
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hbiss said:
They are not permitted to do electrical installations, contracting.
"In most cases, he operates a business but could work for someone else who needs a person
qualified to do Master Antenna work."
It is a work license, not a contractor license, they still need a contractor to work under.
This issure is about CT,s enforcement of the contracting laws.
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LawnGuyLandSparky
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kbsparky said:
KB, in every NYC subway there are signs: "$100.00 fine for spitting."
(Throwing up is free.)
growler said:
No FCC laws on satellite receiving equipment, the only reason you need a permit for the dish antenna, is to have the mast ground wire inspected. and the proper conection to the electrode system.
A common troblem found in satellite installations is, no ground wire from the satellite mast, to allow the current, and build up, to discharge, no coax line arrestors is another concern, the hazzards created by poor amtenna installs, can cause life and property damage.
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stickboy1375
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The funny thing is that Connecticut does NOT require a permit to install a dish or antenna, You can purchase these items almost anywhere, yet they want to enforce having a license to install them, this makes no sense... Who is going to inspect these items now that someone is required to have a license to install them?
Around here we only have building inspectors, so I'm sure they are just going to be tickled pink with all the extra work load....
Around here we only have building inspectors, so I'm sure they are just going to be tickled pink with all the extra work load....
hbiss
EC, Westchester, New York NEC: 2014
- Location
- Hawthorne, New York NEC: 2014
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- EC
They are not permitted to do electrical installations, contracting... This issure is about CT,s enforcement of the contracting laws.
Try reading it again, it's pretty clear to me:
V-7 Master Antenna Installation and Repair Dealer - $100.00
A technician who qualifies to do any type of antenna systems, both single and MATV systems. In most cases, he operates a business but could work for someone else who needs a person qualified to do Master Antenna work.
OJT = 2000 hours
Who says anything about contracting or electrical installations? This simply says that in order to install these systems you need 2000 hours of OJT to sit for the test. Then you need a business license and insurance to operate a business UNLESS you want to work for someone else who does not have a license himself but operates a valid business.
So, if you are an installer for Direct TV, Dish, Best Buy or Joe's Satellite you need to have a V-7 license to be in compliance with all that gobbledygook in your first post. Nothing says that this work has to be permitted, inspected or performed by an EC. Issuing permits and doing inspections of each installation would be an impossibility due to the numbers installed each day. Use your head.
-Hal
Try reading it again, it's pretty clear to me:
V-7 Master Antenna Installation and Repair Dealer - $100.00
A technician who qualifies to do any type of antenna systems, both single and MATV systems. In most cases, he operates a business but could work for someone else who needs a person qualified to do Master Antenna work.
OJT = 2000 hours
Who says anything about contracting or electrical installations? This simply says that in order to install these systems you need 2000 hours of OJT to sit for the test. Then you need a business license and insurance to operate a business UNLESS you want to work for someone else who does not have a license himself but operates a valid business.
So, if you are an installer for Direct TV, Dish, Best Buy or Joe's Satellite you need to have a V-7 license to be in compliance with all that gobbledygook in your first post. Nothing says that this work has to be permitted, inspected or performed by an EC. Issuing permits and doing inspections of each installation would be an impossibility due to the numbers installed each day. Use your head.
-Hal
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stickboy1375
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hbiss said:
I guess my problem is why have a license without inspections or permits... a piece of paper in a wallet does not make someone better than the next... and I GUARANTEE the same exact problems they are having now will continue...
hbiss
EC, Westchester, New York NEC: 2014
- Location
- Hawthorne, New York NEC: 2014
- Occupation
- EC
You are probably right. But at least there will be some accountability in that if a problem is found they can pull the installer's license. One other advantage is that Best-Buy and others like them won't be able to hire people off the street with little or no experience. The 2000 hour OJT requirement will curtail that. This is tough to enforce without permits and inspections and I'm sure that's the reason behind the new strict penalties as well as the publicity in the trade publications. It should be enough to scare reasonable people into compliance and I'm sure spot checks and prosecutions will be used as examples to others who won't comply.
We have a similar situation here where home improvement contractors must be licensed. Home improvement contractors include landscapers and the guys who just go around cutting lawns. Every year they go around and round up the guys who don't have a current sticker on their trucks. It's worked pretty well in getting compliance as evidenced by all the stickers.
-Hal
We have a similar situation here where home improvement contractors must be licensed. Home improvement contractors include landscapers and the guys who just go around cutting lawns. Every year they go around and round up the guys who don't have a current sticker on their trucks. It's worked pretty well in getting compliance as evidenced by all the stickers.
-Hal
stickboy1375
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hbiss said:
I agree...
quogueelectric
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feds overide the state anyway
feds overide the state anyway
from what I am told the fed govt can overide the states jurrisdiction anyway as they see fit.
feds overide the state anyway
from what I am told the fed govt can overide the states jurrisdiction anyway as they see fit.
quogueelectric said:
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html
Are all restrictions prohibited?
A: No. Clearly-defined, legitimate safety restrictions are permitted even if they impair installation, maintenance or use provided they are necessary to protect public safety and are no more burdensome than
necessary to ensure safety. Examples of valid safety restrictions include fire codes preventing people from installing antennas on fire escapes; restrictions requiring that a person not place an antenna within a certain distance from a power line;
and installation requirements that describe the proper method to secure an antenna.
The safety reason for the restriction must be written in the text, preamble or legislative history of the restriction, or in a document that is readily available to antenna users, so that a person who wishes to install an antenna knows what restrictions apply. Safety restrictions cannot discriminate between objects that are comparable in size and weight and pose the same or a similar safety risk as the antenna that is being restricted.
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quogueelectric
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of course you are still responsible for your work
of course you are still responsible for your work
of course you are still responsible for your work
just the matter of WHO is the AHJ.satcom said:
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