Cutt-a-Watt

[eleceng09]

Can anyone explain how this device works on saving money on your electric bill? It connects to your panelboard with three wires - two going to the neutral bar and one going to the ground bar. The website is:

http://cutt-a-watt.com

Thanks

 

[masterinbama]

Snake oil.

Snake oil.

I like where the label says "UL listed components" leads people to believe it is a UL listed product. At $279.00 you can buy a lot of CFL'S for that

 

[wbalsam1]

Notice their claim that I highlighted in red color. They're invoking the NEC purely for a professional connection with no actual substance, IMHO.

1. Sellers Point of View: Say you are selling your property/home yourself, having a Real Estate Agency sell it for you, or maybe you just need to have it Appraised. Presenting the Certificate can be a very rewarding selling point for you, your agent, or appraiser...You installed the Electrical Saving System, increase health, and electrical safety measures in accordance to the National Electric Code/Requirements, and increased the property value plus more...

 

[don_resqcapt19]

Some quotes from their website.

The neutral wire is induced by the above examples, although its purpose is to carry the unused energy back to the sub-station and regenerated by a special step-up transformer.

draw the power needed it is measured in kilowatts, the unused electric and the electrical leakage is not being credited to your kilowatt usage, resulting in a lost percentage of cost that you paid for and never used. Many applications you will find that the neutral will be carrying many amps, etc… being costly and harmful to your electrical devices.

All is vital to the inductive rectification of the neutral to be stabilized to its original state for the main purpose in which it is intended.

 

[eleceng09]

Thanks for your responses.

I just cannot grasp what technology they are selling...and how would that reduce the measured (metered) watts? I'm wondering if it's "cleaning up" the voltage somehow so that the meter sees a lower RMS voltage than it would without this device. In regards to AMPS, your house is going to draw whatever the load is, so I do not think the device has anything to do with current.

(Great point on the CFLs)

Thanks

 

[72.5kv]

sounds like a rip off

 

[drbond24]

Example 1: If you were to bury an electric line for ? mile under a set of high power supply lines, the buried line will induce enough electrical current from the other lines to actually supply the lights in your home.

I'm too lazy to do the math on this right now, but I suspect the above statement is only true if the 'high power supply lines' were low enough to bump your head on.

An AC electric current is defined as the movement of electrons in roughly the same direction, usually through a wire.

That's an interesting definition.

I find the How It Works page on that website to be something that was written after reading a 4-H book on electricity. Half of it doesn't make any sense, and the other half has nothing to do with the device they are advertising.

...and how would that reduce the measured (metered) watts?

As far as I know, they can't. As you say, the load is what it is. Appliances are rated for a certain voltage, and they draw a certain amperage at that voltage. They could lower the kVA load a little (power factor correction), but that doesn't do a homeowner any good at all as has been said many times in this forum.

 

[charlie b]

I would have to say that this is the single worst example of an attempt to sell a worthless product to an unsuspecting public. I have gotten email messages inviting me to collect millions of dollars from some banker in Nigeria that were written in better English.

To answer the original question, this thing cannot save money on a residential electric bill. End of discussion.

Now, how do we get these people arrested for fraud?

 

[weressl]

Can anyone explain how this device works on saving money on your electric bill? It connects to your panelboard with three wires - two going to the neutral bar and one going to the ground bar. The website is:

http://cutt-a-watt.com

Thanks

see the evaluation at: http://cutt-a-valet.com

 

[charlie b]

That link didn't work for me, Laszlo.

 

[celtic]

My favorite line:

1. Buyers Point of View: When a buyer is considering purchasing any property/home they look at several aspects to fit their lifestyle. Every place they look at is going to have something missing. When they see the Certificate that comes with the property/home, they usually forget about the other small details they had in mind before. It's a big plus to the potential buyer. They will feel more secure about their health and safety

Small details like what?
Does the roof leak, the toxic landfill next door...

LMAO

 

[Fulthrotl]

I'm too lazy to do the math on this right now, but I suspect the above statement is only true if the 'high power supply lines' were low enough to bump your head on.

i've actually measured some pretty significant voltages induced
in a 230 kv switchrack.... the bus was about 35' overhead, and a
10' stick of pipe, in the afternoon when the AC load was at a peak,
could get a measured 80+ volts on 10' of pipe. that sounds nuts,
but i measured it with a fluke 12, with my own hands. i asked one
of the station operators about it, and he said that bus peaked at
over 2,000 amps of 230kv in mid afternoon....

it wasn't a static charge either.... you could spin a drill motor with it.

we got curious when we noticed you'd get shocked touching the
work truck without gloves in the afternoon, but not in the morning.

as for this "wonder invention"? sounds like doing nothing is what it
does best.....


randy

 

[Fulthrotl]

I would have to say that this is the single worst example of an attempt to sell a worthless product to an unsuspecting public. I have gotten email messages inviting me to collect millions of dollars from some banker in Nigeria that were written in better English.

"All is vital to the inductive rectification of the neutral to be stabilized to its original state for the main purpose in which it is intended."

um, charlie, i think the author of both of both of these modalities
is sitting in an internet cafe in Lagos........ i just KNEW that inductive
rectification was causing most of the problems in my life......
that, and that all neutrals must be properly neutered, just like my cat.

i'm not worried about making a living in the electrical industry any more...
i sent in my $388 Cote 'd Ivory export tax stamp fee, and am anticipating
my 16.4 million US dollars by wire transfer modality forthwith.

it was promised by friday.... oh, boy!!!

however, with tongue not in cheek any longer, the nigerian 419 scams,
based on the dollar value of wire transfers into the region by people
who would not have any reasonable need to send money to that area
of the world, exceeds 150 million dollars a year.

seems the statement "there's one born every minute" underestimated
things somewhat.

randy

 

[weressl]

That link didn't work for me, Laszlo.

I hope not, it was an attempt at a joke. I guess the joke is on me:roll:

 

[LarryFine]

sounds like a rip off

There's a good reason for that. :roll:

I'm too lazy to do the math on this right now, but I suspect the above statement is only true if the 'high power supply lines' were low enough to bump your head on.

I'm dubious, especially with one end of the buried cable open.

That link didn't work for me, Laszlo.

There's a good reason for that, too.

 

[LarryFine]

it wasn't a static charge either.... you could spin a drill motor with it.

Now, I'm very dubious. I'd have to see that one to believe it.

we got curious when we noticed you'd get shocked touching the work truck without gloves in the afternoon, but not in the morning.

That, I could believe. Humidity is greater in the AM.


Did you ever try running the drill from the truck's body?