Damp location

[The electron man]

My first question is Would a garage with no with windows or a door be considered a damp location

And second do you need a gfci in a damp location ?

 

[ptonsparky]

I would consider it damp and if it's a residential garage, shed, porch or whatever, it needs GFCI protection for receptacle outlets. Damp or not.

 

[LarryFine]

My first question is Would a garage with no with windows or a door be considered a damp location

And second do you need a gfci in a damp location ?

I took no door to mean open, not enclosed.

At grade level one is needed.

 

[infinity]

This garage has no door?

 

[The electron man]

This garage has no door?

Yes sir

 

[The electron man]

I took no door to mean open, not enclosed.

At grade level one is needed.

But can I use bx in a damp location ?

 

[ptonsparky]

But can I use bx in a damp location ?

Code book handy?

 

[The electron man]

Code book handy?

Yes , but not very good at finding things yet in the code book still new to me

 

[Little Bill]

I would like an explanation of how a garage could have no door or window. Does it have sides and ends?

 

[The electron man]

I would like an explanation of how a garage could have no door or window. Does it have sides and ends?

The opening is there but there in no actual window or door installed

 

[ptonsparky]

I doesn't matter what you call it. Doors, windows, walls nothing. It needs a GFCI protection.

 

[TwoBlocked]

Yes , but not very good at finding things yet in the code book still new to me

Getting index tabs for your code book really helps

 

[Fred B]

Yes , but not very good at finding things yet in the code book still new to me

To start look in 210.8 for requirements related to GFCI's.

 

[ptonsparky]

BX is Flexible Metal Conduit article 348

 

[Fred B]

But can I use bx in a damp location ?

Might want to review 320.10 & 320.12 or 330.10 & 330.12 depending what you are calling BX as this cable type is not in the code. But no can't be used in a damp location for AC cable, but if MC with a jacket it can be, Maybe.

BX is Flexible Metal Conduit article 348

NO, FMC is a "conduit" that wire is introduced into not prewired. Look at the name "Conduit" 348.12 also prohibits FMC in wet locations. This is a different product than LFMC that can be used in wet locations. Neither of these types have prewired and contractor will introduce the wire into them.
Neither is what was tradition "old" wire type BX. Traditional BX was sort of something between MC and AC types oldest had no grounding conductor, then came one with very small insulated grounding conductor.
New AC will have a bonding strip to bond the sheath sections, MC will have a full size insulated grounding conductor.

 

[ptonsparky]

Might want to review 320.10 & 320.12 or 330.10 & 330.12 depending what you are calling BX as this cable type is not in the code. But no can't be used in a damp location for AC cable, but if MC with a jacket it can be, Maybe.


NO, FMC is a "conduit" that wire is introduced into not prewired. Look at the name "Conduit" 348.12 also prohibits FMC in wet locations. This is a different product than LFMC that can be used in wet locations. Neither of these types have prewired and contractor will introduce the wire into them.
Neither is what was tradition "old" wire type BX. Traditional BX was sort of something between MC and AC types oldest had no grounding conductor, then came one with very small insulated grounding conductor.
New AC will have a bonding strip to bond the sheath sections, MC will have a full size insulated grounding conductor.

I stand corrected.
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[infinity]

But can I use bx in a damp location ?

No as mentioned type AC cable is limited to dry locations only. {320.12(2)}