De-energized Panel?

[Fulthrotl]

True, not until it's disconnected from the bus. But, as Bob pointed out, if it will shock you after it's disconnected, it will be carrying current before it is.

so an amprobe around the neutral BEFORE lifting it would be a
bery, bery good idea.... and a voltmeter on it AFTER lifting it,
wouldn't be a bad idea either.

thanks... i gotta lotta neutrals to neuter this weekend, and a little
pre check would be a good idea....

the absolute worst shock i ever got in 30 years was off a neutral
in a box in an attic.

i was laying on my stomach touching a nicely grounded gas pipe, and there
was a loose neutral in the box, and it turned out to be off the service light
in the attic, and it was on.... i brushed against it, and the light flickered
with the current flow.... in series with me.... tasted copper for 2 days.

 

[tkb]

I like the way my house is set up now.
The only ground path is through the neutral to the POCO and the ground rod.

I have a plastic water pipe, plastic gas main, FIOS fiber for phone /cable/internet.

No parallel paths to the neighbors.

Perfectly isolated. At least electrically. :grin:

 

[hillbilly1]

In the big box stores you have to watch out for crossed up neutrals and hots from other panels. I've done a many of panel/ups change outs where you would kill the power to the panel, but still have voltage on it from a miss-landed neutral or hot from another panel. The "clean" and "dirty panel" power for the registers share the same raceway, and if not properly identified can be miss- tapped in the J-box. Amprobe current tracers are great for hunting these problems down.