Derating neutral wire

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anbm

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Went to job site today, and saw a main service swbd (5,000A MLO, 240/120/1, has five feeder breakers) (The swbd was installed probably around 1980)
serving high-rise condominium.

Incoming feeder underground to swbd: (13) sets of 2#750MCM-AL, 3/0 Neutral-AL. It appears the neutral wire is de-rated, is it allowed per code?
If so, what is the rule?
 

infinity

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The neutral is sized according to the load calculation so it can be smaller than the phase conductors. There is a minimum neutral size for a grounded system.
 

anbm

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The neutral is sized according to the load calculation so it can be smaller than the phase conductors. There is a minimum neutral size for a grounded system.
Dig into the code book, 230.42(C) refers to 250.24(C1)(1) or (2), it appears neutral wire can be smaller than hot wires... but I am not sure if this rule only applies to 3-phase system or doesn't matter.
 

packersparky

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Dig into the code book, 230.42(C) refers to 250.24(C1)(1) or (2), it appears neutral wire can be smaller than hot wires... but I am not sure if this rule only applies to 3-phase system or doesn't matter.

Look at 220.61 and table 250.102(C)(1).
 

infinity

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Dig into the code book, 230.42(C) refers to 250.24(C1)(1) or (2), it appears neutral wire can be smaller than hot wires... but I am not sure if this rule only applies to 3-phase system or doesn't matter.
Reduced service conductors neutrals are permitted on both 1Ø and 3Ø systems. Packer gave you the code sections.
 
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