Detect The Violations - Electrical Panel

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I didn't find much

I didn't find much

I've got to be honest. The home was abandoned and they said that the panel had several violations in it. I've looked this whole thing over and I'm not seeing anything that sticks out at me. I thought maybe a wire guage or the fact that those conductors are not connected to a breaker but that wouldn't be a violation. I'm stumped also.
 
Neutral main lug (between the two ungrounded main lugs) is attached to a horizontal bar that connects to both sides.

The bottom screw on the "inside" left grounded conductor bar is the bonding screw.

Only things I see that is wrong so far is we need some hole seals in the bottom of the cabinet.

Next question is whether the panel is listed to accept the tandem breakers, or are they non-ctl replacement breakers?

and if you want to nit pick - a couple white conductors that need re-identified as ungrounded conductors.
 
Leespark57 said:
Hard to tell from the picture. Panel mounted upside-down? Ok to have mini-breakers in those locations? No bonding bushing on the incoming 2" (250.92)?
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That panel can be mounted with main on top or bottom, there is no "upside down".

QO panels have a rejection feature for tandems, but a non-CTL replacement tandem fits in any position. Those tandems are in the area that would accept tandems if panel is rated for them though, it is always at the far end from the main for say a panel marked 30/40 spaces.

If metal raceway containing service conductors, yes other then a standard locknut is needed to assure bonding to the enclosure.
 
Cybatrex said:
I've got to be honest. The home was abandoned and they said that the panel had several violations in it. I've looked this whole thing over and I'm not seeing anything that sticks out at me. I thought maybe a wire guage or the fact that those conductors are not connected to a breaker but that wouldn't be a violation. I'm stumped also.
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Who are "they"? & which code cycle are they expecting the panel to be compliant with? If "they" are a home inspection service that would explain alot
 
Perhaps these close up shots with the video may give you a better visual inspection.

I'm very appreciative folks, how have I not known about this forum sooner? I just kill myself looking for answers at times for items I just can't find or understand by way of some complicated NEC jargon.


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mwm1752 said:
Who are "they"? & which code cycle are they expecting the panel to be compliant with? If "they" are a home inspection service that would explain alot
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Yes, its a home inspection service. It's an abandoned house and I have no access to the report. They stated the issues with the panel needed to be addressed and I'm not seeing it. I'm beginning to doubt my own abilities. :blink:
 
seeing the CU & undersized neutral it appears the feed into the panel is a piping system -- that said/assumed is there a disconnect ahead of this panel on the structure & would this be considered a feeder? All indications otherwise points to this being the service lateral which appears compliant.
 
Cybatrex said:
Yes, its a home inspection service. It's an abandoned house and I have no access to the report. They stated the issues with the panel needed to be addressed and I'm not seeing it. I'm beginning to doubt my own abilities. :blink:
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They most likely are expecting the most recent code to apply the report should be accessible for proper repairs -- If so AFCI/GFCI is just the start of things they want improved even though there would be no code violations as is -- have they asked you to replace devices?
 
mwm1752 said:
seeing the CU & undersized neutral it appears the feed into the panel is a piping system -- that said/assumed is there a disconnect ahead of this panel on the structure & would this be considered a feeder? All indications otherwise points to this being the service lateral which appears compliant.
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The only thing I found related to the system is this ripped off disconnect in the back yard which obviosly needs to be redone and this was obvious though.

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mwm1752 said:
seeing the CU & undersized neutral it appears the feed into the panel is a piping system -- that said/assumed is there a disconnect ahead of this panel on the structure & would this be considered a feeder? All indications otherwise points to this being the service lateral which appears compliant.
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Different AHJ's have different allowances on how far service conductors are allowed to enter a building before they must hit the service disconnecting means. If that were a building on a slab and less then 5 feet before hitting the panel - it would be ok here.

Cybatrex said:
The only thing I found related to the system is this ripped off disconnect in the back yard which obviosly needs to be redone and this was obvious though.

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Looks maybe like for an air conditioner/heat pump that is no longer there, may have been taken out because the unit was removed and this would prevent energizing the exposed conductors?
 
electrofelon said:
Only thing I see is the white conductors used as ungrounded conductors are not identified. I see the green screw so ok to have N and G together (some people like to keep them separate anyway, for appearance).
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Are those two breaker positions being used for whole house surge suppression?
 
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