Disconnecting means for disposal and dishwasher

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That is pretty dumb. I can put a GFCI receptacle on a counter and the plop the microwave right in front of it. Really no different. When the cabinet is empty the device is readily accessible.
I'm in total agreement. Their reasoning is that a HO will store various cleaners, pots, towels, etc in the cabinet thereby rendering that receptacle "not readily accessible". I still think it's a crock.
 
I understand that manufacturers have to put that wording into their instruction manual so that a HO, looking to save a few $$, doesn't connect the unit with lamp cord. But if we, as EC's, use SO or SJO cord and a plug why should we have to prove to an EI that this wire is suitable for the intended use ?

Because the code says so. Not saying I agree with the rationale.
 
While we're on the subject, how many disposals and DW's come with their own power cords ? I haven't seen a disposal yet that came with its own cord and I've come across one DW in all my years doing electrical work that came with its own cord. Why can't the manufacturers be mandated to install a label right on the unit stating "If not wiring direct and installing a cord and plug use only X or Y type of cord and plug to connect this unit" ? That way an EC doesn't have to go rummaging around to find a manual if an EI requests it.

Just something to add to my wish list. ;)
 
While we're on the subject, how many disposals and DW's come with their own power cords ? I haven't seen a disposal yet that came with its own cord and I've come across one DW in all my years doing electrical work that came with its own cord. Why can't the manufacturers be mandated to install a label right on the unit stating "If not wiring direct and installing a cord and plug use only X or Y type of cord and plug to connect this unit" ? That way an EC doesn't have to go rummaging around to find a manual if an EI requests it.

Just something to add to my wish list. ;)

The world will end long before half the NEC makes sense.

The day the NFPA cares about ECs will be even a longer time.
 
I had an interesting conversation with my coworkers and some are saying since you will be pulling out the dishwasher for the maintenance anyways so that cord and plug connected receptacle now becomes accessible so you dont need a disconnect.And it does make sense.But code says otherway. And i can ask the same question for the range and refrigerator.
One other factor comes into play here - appliances that are fastened in place. Most dishwashers are fastened in place. Only those that are truly portable are not intended to be fastened in place. Those type already have a power cord, supply and drain hoses and a finished top and sides. Refrigerators and ranges are not fastened in place appliances as a general rule. Cooktops and ovens usually are fastened in place though.
 
One other factor comes into play here - appliances that are fastened in place. Most dishwashers are fastened in place. Only those that are truly portable are not intended to be fastened in place. Those type already have a power cord, supply and drain hoses and a finished top and sides. Refrigerators and ranges are not fastened in place appliances as a general rule. Cooktops and ovens usually are fastened in place though.


Does the distinction matter?
 
One other factor comes into play here - appliances that are fastened in place. Most dishwashers are fastened in place. Only those that are truly portable are not intended to be fastened in place. Those type already have a power cord, supply and drain hoses and a finished top and sides. Refrigerators and ranges are not fastened in place appliances as a general rule. Cooktops and ovens usually are fastened in place though.

If you install a receptacle behind the dishwasher for cord and plug connected i should be safe cause even if i want to maintain it i will be taking the dishwasher out anyway then its gonna be accessible.
 
Does the distinction matter?
For a refrigerator the receptacle (disconnecting means) can be behind it because it is essentially considered a portable appliance. Quite frankly I think a GFCI receptacle should be allowed behind the refrigerator for same reason, it is not a fastened in place appliance and no tools are normally necessary to gain access to the receptacle. Doesn't mean I think it is a good design to place it there but NEC isn't a design manual right??
 
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