Diy at it’s best

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McLintock

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Got a call the other day, a lady selling a house she as rented out for several years. The inspection report said wiring in basement needs to be looked at and redone. Lady said the renter tried to finish the basement.
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Where are your knob and tube? Lol
I've seen some bared nm exposed but not that extensive.
The "house flipper" that done my MIL's house ran the typical yellow jacketed 12-2 NM, but where he needed an additional conductor for three way switches he must have figured using a single yellow :unsure: 12 THHN/THWN along side the NM was sufficient cause that is what he did.
 
Last time I saw something like that it was done by the owner who was an electrical engineer...

-Hal
And probably why threads that come up from time to time from engineers get closed when asking about DIY projects. Some just not meant to actually do the work.
 
Somebody's kids pulled a lot nails out of old lumber. My wife remembers doing it as a kid. Her Dad recycled every building he could get his hands one. His wiring was a bit better.
I pulled a lot of nails out of lumber from old house my parents tore down before building the one there now, I was maybe 8 years old.

Then most of the lumber for the main portions of the house was new lumber anyway:(

Some those old boards did get used here and there though. Much of it needing ripped to same dimensions as other new lumber it was being matched up with, so even more handling of the old stuff. Carbide tip blades weren't so common and were deemed expensive then, so saw blades didn't last as long before needing sharpened, and you seen occasional sparking as it found nails you missed.
 
Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, Brother Maynard !!!

I thought I'd seen it all in the broadcast business, typically GMs and DJ's coming on over the weekend to 'help build the new studio'....but this takes 1st prize.

But can we at least give him a D+ for drilling thru the center of the studs ??
 
The home inspector was right (this time).
And that is their job, to bring up things that are questionable, not to nit pick things they don't really understand. If they encounter something they don't understand it should just be mentioned that a professional should be consulted and not offer solutions to something they don't even know whether is wrong or not.
 
Last time I saw something like that it was done by the owner who was an electrical engineer...

-Hal
It is astonishing as to how many electrical engineers in this building couldn't wire a simple branch circuit and a switched light. I bet I've drawn it out on white boards at least two dozen times in the last decade. Granted, I'm the only one of them who use to be an electrician, but, schidt, it's a hot, a return, and a ground. It's far from rocket science and for the life of me can't understand how anyone with a degree in anything electrical can't understand it.
 
It is astonishing as to how many electrical engineers in this building couldn't wire a simple branch circuit and a switched light. I bet I've drawn it out on white boards at least two dozen times in the last decade. Granted, I'm the only one of them who use to be an electrician, but, schidt, it's a hot, a return, and a ground. It's far from rocket science and for the life of me can't understand how anyone with a degree in anything electrical can't understand it.

Well, I have a BSEE, but for the first 20 years of my career as an engineer I worked in semiconductors where conductor dimensions are measured in fractions of a micron and everything is very low voltage switched DC. When I made the transition to solar design engineering I had to learn a whole lot of electrician stuff.
 
Well, I have a BSEE, but for the first 20 years of my career as an engineer I worked in semiconductors where conductor dimensions are measured in fractions of a micron and everything is very low voltage switched DC. When I made the transition to solar design engineering I had to learn a whole lot of electrician stuff.
I hear ya. We had an engineer here years ago wiring his own remodel on his house. He told me that when he flipped the new light switch, the main breaker would trip. He had the black on one screw...and the white on the other. Semiconductors or high voltage, the theory is the same...ohms law applies, kirchhoff still knows what's up, and he just didn't understand why the white wire didn't have to go to the screw. LOL

I'll give ya, the part that needs learned for the most is the proper use of devices, codes, and all that stuff. But it floors me that when I draw a three way out for some of these fellas, they look at me like no one is home. It amazes me.
 
I hear ya. We had an engineer here years ago wiring his own remodel on his house. He told me that when he flipped the new light switch, the main breaker would trip. He had the black on one screw...and the white on the other. Semiconductors or high voltage, the theory is the same...ohms law applies, kirchhoff still knows what's up, and he just didn't understand why the white wire didn't have to go to the screw. LOL

I'll give ya, the part that needs learned for the most is the proper use of devices, codes, and all that stuff. But it floors me that when I draw a three way out for some of these fellas, they look at me like no one is home. It amazes me.
But they can follow some software program logic or a somewhat complicated flow chart with no troubles, right?
 
Somebody's kids pulled a lot nails out of old lumber. My wife remembers doing it as a kid. Her Dad recycled every building he could get his hands one.
My father's house was built from a tear down on the other side of town. That house was built around 1900. And electrified at some point. Dad built his house 1949/50. There were still knobs and tubes on/in the floor joists from the other house (still there when I sold it in 2012). And a lovely 100 year old 6 pane glass back door where the glass had waves in it. Ever seen a house built in 49/50 with rough cut 3 x 4 studs? Dad went to the county in 1949 for a $3000 permit, deed had a restriction the dwelling had to be $5000. When questioned, dad said " It will be built for $3000 because that's all I have, but it will be worth $5000". He got the permit. Brick Cape Cod. He did hire an electrician.... (y)
 
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