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tonyou812 said:
I personally dont care if people do their own electrical work. It all seems to come full circle in the end. Many times the work is so bad it eventually needs to be repaired or becomes very inconveient to the HO's. Thats when we step in and tell them "Its not going to be cheap" .Unless a dirty station wagon EC or lowballer does it for far less than what it should be. Which seems to be the case lately. Maybe prompted by own lousy economy.
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Rates=75.00/hr 100.00 if you watch. 125 if you help. 200/hr if you touched it before I arive!!:grin:
 
iaov said:
I took a look at a DIY forum a couple of weeks ago and one member told another member he could go ahead and cut the POCO's wires off at the mast and that he didn't need to wear gloves to hook it back up if he was not on an aluminum ladder.Yikes!!! We may be a bit argumentative and rude at times on this forum but I have never seen truelly stupid advice such as that offfered here.
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Iaov.,, I did read that forum about that one i almost fall off the chair on that one but I was not involded in that forum at all.,, but I know some of the guys in that forum infomed me about and that person allready done that with no side effect.,, it kinda make my blood boil on that one.

Merci,Marc
 
iaov said:
I doubt if anyone ever was killed or thier house burned down because of an unqualified faucet installation.:grin:
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probly not, but there have been people that died due to being overcome by sewer gas that entered the house through improperly installed drains.
 
The first forum I ever joined was this one. Several friendships have sprouted from this forum. So much good information. I have learned alot here, along with my 33 years in the trade. Learning everyday.

Regarding the DIY forum.
Some of the members here at Holt are registered on that forum including myself. You will also find members of "Electrician Talk" "ECN" and "Guru" advising on the DIY forum. Different forum names same people. These professionals are what makes the DIY forum an asset to the safety and understanding needed to complete homegrown electrical projects. My hat goes off to the DIY'er that will ask a question before he hurts himself, someone or burns down his house. Bad advice is quickly remedied by the pros that are on constant vigil.
I would encourage those who are not familiar with the DIY forum to just take a look. I am certain you will be very suprised at the knowledge being freely handed out to those who have no knowledge. Is it not our responsibility to make sure our jobs and workmanship are compliant and safe? Why not take a moment to help someone do a safe and compliant job. When DIY'ers are surely not capable they are instructed to get professional help. Hire a contractor type of help.
Teaching actually makes us better professionals.
 
No quotes here as to aim this at any certain poster but as soon as you do your own automotive, carpentry, plumbing, etc. work, your nothing but a DIY'r. Why are some so two faced?:confused:
 
wptski said:
No quotes here as to aim this at any certain poster but as soon as you do your own automotive, carpentry, plumbing, etc. work, your nothing but a DIY'r. Why are some so two faced?:confused:
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What exactly is your point. I do not get it. :-?
 
John Valdes said:
What exactly is your point. I do not get it. :-?
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If your a electrician by trade and complain about DIY'r doing their own electrical then turn around and do your own plumbing or whatever, your two faced.
 
wptski said:
If your a electrician by trade and complain about DIY'r doing their own electrical then turn around and do your own plumbing or whatever, your two faced.
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Yikes:mad:
 
brother said:
Most adults should have some idea what they r competent to do or not.
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My neighbor decided he was going to put cruise controll on his brand new van. He ordered the parts. When the parts came it had at least 100 wires all bundled, he had to connect these wires to other things.
Then he opened up the steering column and pulled all the wires out.
It sat not running for about two months. Then he had it towed to the dealership to have it all fixed.

He also had 4-wheel drive put on his E-250 .
That cost $12,000
At least he let the pro's do that.
 
I have a class D Biological Wastewater Operators license and a sewer collections certification, can I do my own plumbing?

I took automotive repair and maintenance in High School, can I work on my car?

I have a 2 year Draftsman degree, can I draw up my own blueprints?

Am I a DIY, Yes!

I agree, some people do not need to be a DIY, my boss is a good example.
 
buckofdurham said:
My neighbor decided he was going to put cruise controll on his brand new van. He ordered the parts. When the parts came it had at least 100 wires all bundled, he had to connect these wires to other things.
Then he opened up the steering column and pulled all the wires out.
It sat not running for about two months. Then he had it towed to the dealership to have it all fixed.

He also had 4-wheel drive put on his E-250 .
That cost $12,000
At least he let the pro's do that.
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He is obviously not very financially savvy.

It rarely if ever makes good sense to convert an vehicle to 4WD that can be purchased with it.
 
hockeyoligist2 said:
I have a class D Biological Wastewater Operators license and a sewer collections certification, can I do my own plumbing?

I took automotive repair and maintenance in High School, can I work on my car?

I have a 2 year Draftsman degree, can I draw up my own blueprints?

Am I a DIY, Yes!

I agree, some people do not need to be a DIY, my boss is a good example.
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Sure! As long as laws allow it. I just have issues with people that complain when somebody does electrical but actually are DIY'ers themselves.
 
John Valdes said:
The first forum I ever joined was this one. Several friendships have sprouted from this forum. So much good information. I have learned alot here, along with my 33 years in the trade. Learning everyday.

Regarding the DIY forum.
Some of the members here at Holt are registered on that forum including myself. You will also find members of "Electrician Talk" "ECN" and "Guru" advising on the DIY forum. Different forum names same people. These professionals are what makes the DIY forum an asset to the safety and understanding needed to complete homegrown electrical projects. My hat goes off to the DIY'er that will ask a question before he hurts himself, someone or burns down his house. Bad advice is quickly remedied by the pros that are on constant vigil.
I would encourage those who are not familiar with the DIY forum to just take a look. I am certain you will be very suprised at the knowledge being freely handed out to those who have no knowledge. Is it not our responsibility to make sure our jobs and workmanship are compliant and safe? Why not take a moment to help someone do a safe and compliant job. When DIY'ers are surely not capable they are instructed to get professional help. Hire a contractor type of help.
Teaching actually makes us better professionals.
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Well said, sir!!! Especially the part about take a moment and help someone. That is what everyone did 200 years ago to build this nation.
 
You can't argue that point, unless you may put someone in harms way. You want me to help you with your farm equipment? If it's not electrically related, than don't involve me in it!
 
wptski said:
If your a electrician by trade and complain about DIY'r doing their own electrical then turn around and do your own plumbing or whatever, your two faced.
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First of all I do not complain when someone does or attempts to do their own electrical work. I am very wary of DIY'ers, as they can do more harm than good. But if some guy wants to know how he screwed up his three way when he replaced the switch, I have no problem helping him to correct it. If one of my family members wants or needs to do an electrical job I help them or do it myself.

Of course I do what I can in other trades around my own house. Like totaly replumb the whole joint, paint, clean siding and sometimes try to work on my cars.
I do see your point regarding those who chastise others or frown on DIY'ers, but it's just a fact of life. People will always do as they please right or wrong, and we have no control over that. What we can do is help the person to do a safe job.

Hey, I even learned how to charge my own car AC system. I had been paying $100.00 bucks a year. Now that I have the dispensing hose and gauge it now cost's me $8.00.
Why put a new evaporator in an 8 year old car that only needs charging in the spring. My neighbor showed me how to do it. And I showed him how to install his new generator.
 
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