- Location
- Windsor, CO NEC: 2017
- Occupation
- Service Manager
I am going to look at a pond installation at a retail facility. It looks as though the pond is for test-driving canoes and stuff. That qualifies it as a swimming pool in my opinion. Thoughts?
Does 680 Apply?
- Thread starter George Stolz
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- Location
- Lockport, IL
- Occupation
- Retired Electrical Engineer
That article has a specific definition for "permanently installed . . . pools," and it is very clear. If it's inside a building, it fits the definition, regardless of water depth, and regardless of whether there are any electrical circuits involved. So I would say yes.
- Location
- Logan, Utah
George, how is this "pond" constructed?
It may be more in line with an artificially made body of water in accordance with Article 682.
Chris
It may be more in line with an artificially made body of water in accordance with Article 682.
Chris
- Location
- Windsor, CO NEC: 2017
- Occupation
- Service Manager
It is part of an outdoor landscaping design. I believe it is going to be built like a pond. It is going to be about 65' x 65', in a general Y shape. I did verify today at the walk that it is going to be in service three seasons and they will be floating boats on it. It will be about 3.5' deep.
Cavie
Senior Member
- Location
- SW Florida
I vote for 682.
Regularkevin
Member
- Location
- Auburn, WA
Are they using Gunite or EPDM to retain the water?
- Location
- Chapel Hill, NC
- Occupation
- Retired Electrical Contractor
The ultimate question- when does a pool become pond or when does a pond become a pool?
I vote article 682 esp. if it has a dirt bottom
I vote article 682 esp. if it has a dirt bottom
- Location
- Logan, Utah
Then IMHO it would be an Artifically made body of water and Article 682 would apply.
Chris
- Location
- Simi Valley, CA
What everyone says sounds right to me. But and I say but, if it is a gunite pond I may lean back towards 680 because it really doesn't fit the description in 682.
680.2 is explicit in the pool definition. I don't believe the description given by the OP qualifies - swimming, wading, immersion, therapy. I also don't see where indoor makes it a pool rather than a pond.
682.1 says that the 682 code section is the fall-through if you can't fit the body of water into any other code section. 682.2 says commercial purpose not limited to the examples.
I go with 682
682.1 says that the 682 code section is the fall-through if you can't fit the body of water into any other code section. 682.2 says commercial purpose not limited to the examples.
I go with 682
rcarroll
Senior Member
- Location
- Fort Collins, Colorado
It's my town & hopefully my inspection. 682 applies. problem solved.:grin:
- Location
- Simi Valley, CA
Well shoot George, why didn't you just go this way in the first place.
- Location
- Windsor, CO NEC: 2017
- Occupation
- Service Manager
Well, I figured if I wasn't sure, there might be others who were unsure out there, and we could start a support group.
mivey
Senior Member
My name is George and I have an H2O problem.Well, I figured if I wasn't sure, there might be others who were unsure out there, and we could start a support group.
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