Does this meet the definition of a receptacle outlet?

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tortuga

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Interested in opinions on a friendly debate I am having.
First the
NEC definition of Receptacle:
A contact device installed at the outlet for the
connection of an attachment plug, or for the direct connection
of electrical utilization equipment designed to mate with the
corresponding contact device. A single receptacle is a single
contact device with no other contact device on the same yoke. A
multiple receptacle is two or more contact devices on the same
yoke. (CMP-18)

Receptacle Outlet. An outlet where one or more receptacles
are installed. (CMP-18)

This product just takes 120V in and spits 120V out a receptacle.
There is no supplementary OCPD or anything inside.
Thanks in advance

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LarryFine

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I'd say no, because it's part of an assembly. It's whatever the manufacturer says it is.

Same for products like linkable under-cabinet lights.
 

wwhitney

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How is that not "A contact device installed at the outlet for the connection of an attachment plug"? The attachment plug is just proprietary, rather than NEMA 5-15.

Cheers, Wayne
 

LarryFine

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How is that not "A contact device installed at the outlet for the connection of an attachment plug"? The attachment plug is just proprietary, rather than NEMA 5-15.
To me, that's not an outlet. Certainly not part of the premises wiring.

Is the female end of a computer or a monitor power cord an outlet?
 

wwhitney

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To me, that's not an outlet.
So you've got NM cable coming out of the wall just under an upper cabinet, the junction box shown mounted on the bottom of the cabinet with the NM entering one of the cable clamps, the manufacturer's cord plugged into the little hole on the side, and the other end of the cord going to an undercabinet light.

The undercabinet light is utilization equipment, the NM cable is part of the premises wiring system, so somewhere between them is the outlet. Where is it? Seems like it's the junction box shown in the picture.

Cheers, Wayne
 

infinity

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The NEC definition of a receptacle includes the word yoke. There is no yoke on this junction box.
 

LarryFine

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The undercabinet light is utilization equipment, the NM cable is part of the premises wiring system, so somewhere between them is the outlet. Where is it? Seems like it's the junction box shown in the picture.
I'd say it's where the NM conductors terminate, like with almost any hard-wired equipment.

Isn't the consensus that the 2-prong receptacle in an exhaust fan isn't a "receptacle outlet"?
 

tortuga

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Isn't the consensus that the 2-prong receptacle in an exhaust fan isn't a "receptacle outlet"?
I agree with that since you gotta remove a cover to access it inside a fan. This however is plain access
under a kitchen cabinet.
 

tortuga

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Ok there is a back story to this, I am not defending it either way, but this is tied (not by me) into a kitchen appliance circuit. And passed an inspection.
 

LarryFine

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Its a screw terminal block, like what you would find on a GFCI, but why would that matter?
Because the terminals are the "outlet" and are the end of the premises wiring.

I liken it to the contactor line terminals in an AC compressor wiring compartment.

Again, what would you call the connectors built into the ends of hard-wireable/linkable under-cabinet lights?

You enter one with NM cable, and link the rest with the 18ga jumpers.

Where is the outlet? Are the sockets in the lights considered receptacles?


Please note: I am not arguing in the angry sense. This is a lively and friendly discussion to me. :)
 
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