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I know they do have some with test and reset written both ways.

But why do they then continue to write '15a/125V' in a fashion that is 'upside down' with the rest of the world?


We can speculate all we want as to what is right or wrong, or who cares, but for some reason manufacturers care, otherwise we would be seeing printing the other way.
 
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Originally posted by milwaukeesteve:

We can speculate all we want as to what is right or wrong, or who cares, but for some reason manufacturers care, otherwise we would be seeing printing the other way.
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Talk about overthinking something.
 
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Ok let me ask this.If my cord started coming loose just which prong would be the the most important not to loose? Ok now point to the ground,It has worked for over 50 years down ,why change now ?
 
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Ok let me ask this.If my cord started coming loose just which prong would be the the most important not to loose? Ok now point to the ground,It has worked for over 50 years down ,why change now ?
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Jim,

I agree that the ground would be the most important not to lose and that's why ground prongs are longer than the other prongs. By design, they are first make, last break.

So what exactly are you saying shouldn't change now?
 
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Oh by the way thier conversation had nothing to do with the NEC,it was a fishing trip they were going on this weekend.No wonder we are 3 maybe 5 days out on inspections :D
 
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Maybe if you offered to take them in your boat Allen your inspections would be done quicker :D
 
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Some knucklehead told me this one time.


If a "metal" receptacle wall plate came loose and by force of gravity it dropped down while something was plugged into the recp. there is a chance that a small portion of the live "blades" might be exposed, so the metal plate could either come in contact with just the ground blade or it could fall and lay across the hot & Neutral blades.

I still install them Grounds down. (The Earth's magnetic feild IS drastically decreasing you know! http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/timeline.html


Edit: Although that has nothing to do with gravity...so...scratch that!

Oh, and Sam, I always put the grounds closest to the source of water when installing them horizontally! (Usually in a kitchen) I have no idea why, I guess I just had to have a theory or else I would be stumped and look like a deer in headlights!

Dave

[ May 26, 2005, 08:59 AM: Message edited by: davedottcom ]
 
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The orientation of a receptacle has been discussed numerous time by the Code Panel. I remember that the concern was for the right-angle type cord-cap where if the receptacle was mandated to be installed with ground "UP", the cord would make a u-turn and put stress on the cord. So it was decided not to require a specific orientation.
 
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I normally cut the ground prong off, so it doesn't really matter much to me how they're installed. And when my tv plug doesn't go in, I trim down the fat prong with my dykes so that it works.
 
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It is the desecration of the electrician on that job up down sieways I have a perfernce that I will keep to myself. Last year met a new electrical inspector [he no longer is an inspector thank the lord] that wanted all receptacles left out of the openings so he could;d see the grounding pigtail was connected and then put back in and get charged for another inspection I said no way you can take off any cover of any receptacle and check it visually he agreed but didn't want to. So for him I put all receptacles ground up so he wouldn't have to stand on his head and see the ground screw and the U.L. and C.S.A. listing could be read and also also?manufacturer the voltage and configuration info would be all right side up. I would like to see a Hall of Fame for the worst Inspectors this one would be a front running candidate, too many more stories about this guy it would go forever.
 
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Wow, that's pretty sad/funny. :D

I've heard of some that force the electrician to tear down every new ceiling fan in a remodel, to verify that the proper box was used. That was pretty unbelievable.

If the inspector would like to dismantle the house to inspect it, peachy. But requiring the electrician to tear it down and re-install it seems pretty jacked up to me.
 
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I think the answer for that is to go over his head. Dropping ceiling fans, pulling receptacles out, etc. should not be done. You have had a rough inspection and this is the final. When I was in the trade, I didn't hesitate to go to their boss. They were sticklers for a while but they knew if it was big enough that they would get into hot water and left me alone after a while. I tried to be there for the inspection and gladly changed any violations without an argument. Eventually, they developed a certain amount of respect for me. :D
 
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He has been fired. I didn't have to complain, everybody else did I worked around his mistakes once I had him inspect a condemn house on my permit he told the owner some violations but never wrote a single one so when had service inspection he said he wanted all this other done too I said you had already made an inspection and didn't write anything up and no code reference so you have no violations, it needed attention so I told him since he didn't do a very good job of initial inspection I would clean it all up and not be charged reinspection fee so he eased off quite a bit and had the whole job passed and alot safer then when I started. Another time he wanted me to leave the ground rods a foot out of the ground so he could see that there were two and wired together, I said that is not code the rods are eight feet long and 5/8" round and needs to be completely in the ground all eight feet plus it was by a public walkway and told him would not put a trip hazard for anyone and told him to bring shovel to check the grounding.
 
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