Dwelling Load Calculation

[david luchini]

But I guess your saying, I can take 75% off for the total calculation for all 20 Apartments.

Yes, you have 40 appliances on the same service that the 220.53 demand factor can be applied to (take 25% off)

 

[BatmanisWatching1987]

Yes, you have 40 appliances on the same service that the 220.53 demand factor can be applied to (take 25% off)

Thanks for the help, I will take the 75% for total incoming service. I'm not sure what you meant by 25%?

So for each apartment feeder, I will need a minimum of 120 AMPS.

 

[david luchini]

Thanks for the help, I will take the 75% for total incoming service. I'm not sure what you meant by 25%?

So for each apartment feeder, I will need a minimum of 120 AMPS.

I would look at the optional calculation in 220.82 for each dwelling unit, and in 220.84 for the total building.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

You don't take 75% off the service. You can add up all the appliance and multiply by 75% and use that number

 

[BatmanisWatching1987]

I would look at the optional calculation in 220.82 for each dwelling unit, and in 220.84 for the total building.

I used the Method 220.82, but I don't think I am getting the correct incoming service.

For Single Phase I got 911 AMP and for Three Phase I got 527 AMP.


I also attached my updated Standard Calculation for Single and Three Phase.

 

[david luchini]

I used the Method 220.82, but I don't think I am getting the correct incoming service.

For Single Phase I got 911 AMP and for Three Phase I got 527 AMP.


I also attached my updated Standard Calculation for Single and Three Phase.

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Your total lighting and small appliance load is wrong on the optional method. That's why your total load is low.

 

[BatmanisWatching1987]

Your total lighting and small appliance load is wrong on the optional method. That's why your total load is low.

Thanks for noticing that. I updated the Optional Calculation and now I get
For Single Phase I got 1021 AMP and for Three Phase I got 590 AMP.

I notice I made the same mistake for Standard and Three Phase as well, so would I use the amount of 3,856 VA which used the demand Factor of 3000 VA @ 100% and 35% after.


So for each apartment feeder, I will need a minimum of 120 AMPS based on Standard Calculation and optional comes out to 134 AMPS

 

[david luchini]

Thanks for noticing that. I updated the Optional Calculation and now I get
For Single Phase I got 1021 AMP and for Three Phase I got 590 AMP.

I notice I made the same mistake for Standard and Three Phase as well, so would I use the amount of 3,856 VA which used the demand Factor of 3000 VA @ 100% and 35% after.


So for each apartment feeder, I will need a minimum of 120 AMPS based on Standard Calculation and optional comes out to 134 AMPS

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I think the 220.82 optional calculation for each apartment feeder would come out around 102 Amps.

 

[BatmanisWatching1987]

I think the 220.82 optional calculation for each apartment feeder would come out around 102 Amps.

Could I ask how you come up with 102 AMP since I just updated my Optional Calculation for 1 Dwelling units using 220.82, but I got 83 AMPS.

 

[topgone]

Not sure how you got 35kW. Since 8kW * 28% * 20 will equal to 44,800.

See note 3 on Table 220.55.

 

[david luchini]

Could I ask how you come up with 102 AMP since I just updated my Optional Calculation for 1 Dwelling units using 220.82, but I got 83 AMPS.

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The 220.82 demand factor does not apply to the air conditioning