Eaton circuit breakers

How bout sylvania where do they fit in
 
40 years ago sylvania had a panel in the cheap style.
 
Today I was had a property with a physically small 150 amp Murray panel. Ask for no code I had to replace the pool pump circuit breaker with a GFCI circuit breaker.

I order two. One Siemens and the other Eaton BR style. It doesn't look like Eaton manufacturers a CL style double pole GFCI breaker.

The Siemens would literally not physically fit in the panel. The Siemens breaker would not fit on the "hooks" (Left side of panel) where breaker physically "hooks" on to. So I had to go BR style or nothing.

I don't see this being a safety concern. I see it possibly (probably not) way later on down the road having effect on the bus bars.

Any opinions would be awesome 😀.
 
Captorofsin1 said:
Today I was had a property with a physically small 150 amp Murray panel. Ask for no code I had to replace the pool pump circuit breaker with a GFCI circuit breaker.

I order two. One Siemens and the other Eaton BR style. It doesn't look like Eaton manufacturers a CL style double pole GFCI breaker.

The Siemens would literally not physically fit in the panel. The Siemens breaker would not fit on the "hooks" (Left side of panel) where breaker physically "hooks" on to. So I had to go BR style or nothing.

I don't see this being a safety concern. I see it possibly (probably not) way later on down the road having effect on the bus bars.

Any opinions would be awesome .
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If the pool pump is a Pentair VFD unit, you may have nuisance trip issues.
 
Captorofsin1 said:
Today I was had a property with a physically small 150 amp Murray panel. Ask for no code I had to replace the pool pump circuit breaker with a GFCI circuit breaker.

I order two. One Siemens and the other Eaton BR style. It doesn't look like Eaton manufacturers a CL style double pole GFCI breaker.

The Siemens would literally not physically fit in the panel. The Siemens breaker would not fit on the "hooks" (Left side of panel) where breaker physically "hooks" on to. So I had to go BR style or nothing.

I don't see this being a safety concern. I see it possibly (probably not) way later on down the road having effect on the bus bars.

Any opinions would be awesome 😀.
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In theses it's cheapest to nipple over a spa panel anyway
 
This is what I don't get. CH plug in breakers ( at least the ones I am familiar with) don't interchange with BR style plug in breakers. They have an entirely different latching end on them and are skinnier by a quarter of an inch. Maybe you guys who sounds like you can interchange the two in a load center have a different CH style than I have run across. CH is a bit higher end than BR by the way. But I only purchase them when there is no option such as what happened in 2020.
 
macmikeman said:
This is what I don't get. CH plug in breakers ( at least the ones I am familiar with) don't interchange with BR style plug in breakers. They have an entirely different latching end on them and are skinnier by a quarter of an inch. Maybe you guys who sounds like you can interchange the two in a load center have a different CH style than I have run across. CH is a bit higher end than BR by the way. But I only purchase them when there is no option such as what happened in 2020.
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Some guys call BR cutler hammer and CH tan handle cutler hammer because the BR line was under the Cutler Hammer name for about 10 years in the 90s
 
letgomywago said:
Some guys call BR cutler hammer and CH tan handle cutler hammer because the BR line was under the Cutler Hammer name for about 10 years in the 90s
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Eaton already had all Cutler Hammer branded product lines back then. When they acquired the Westinghouse product lines they initially put them under the Cutler Hammer name.

Now they mostly have eliminated the Cutler Hammer name and just go with Eaton but still kept the individual product line names as in CH series breakers/panels and BR breakers/panels. Even things like the Cutler Hammer Freedom series motor controls are just called Eaton now but are still same product line they used to be
 
letgomywago said:
I started in 2013 so it's always been eaton br and ch tan to me
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Some us been around long enough the CH is still and always will be just Cutler Hammer to us. BR wasn't attached to Eaton or the Cutler Hammer names in any way back in the day but we didn't call them BR (in the field) until Eaton took them in.
 
kwired said:
Some us been around long enough the CH is still and always will be just Cutler Hammer to us. BR wasn't attached to Eaton or the Cutler Hammer names in any way back in the day but we didn't call them BR (in the field) until Eaton took them in.
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I took a dislike Bryant BR over 40 years ago.
 
Galt said:
40 years ago sylvania had a panel in the cheap style.
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Yeah, I think it was $69 for a 200 amp main breaker loadcenter. I built a 1200 amp single phase service, and that was what the owner said he paid each for six of them. Amazingly, about 30+ years later, they are still holding up!
 
If it's an old panel on a service call, I tell the customer you need a new panel, and I throw the old panel with the breakers in the trash.
 
kwired said:
Some us been around long enough the CH is still and always will be just Cutler Hammer to us. BR wasn't attached to Eaton or the Cutler Hammer names in any way back in the day but we didn't call them BR (in the field) until Eaton took them in.
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Right, we called them "interchangeable" breakers. :)
 
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