ECX tips.

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What's the benefit of using something like this over conventional screws, tamper resistance?
 
I use it regularly. It’s nice for terminating devices, but I find that I’m able to “fully torque up” the terminal with a bladed screwdriver afterwards.

I don’t think it’s a required tool though. If I’m doing a big trim out of lots of devices I’ll just use my driver with a philips, and then double check the tightness with bladed screwdriver..
 
Buck Parrish said:
When where are they used?
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Many panel cover screws for example. I hate them, a phillips / common combo would work fine but somebody wanted people to have another tool to carry around.

Roger
 
Buck Parrish said:
When where are they used?
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A #1 is used for devices, such as Leviton a P&S switches and receptacles.

A #2 can be used for conduit fittings.

The problem I have with the bits being used in a driver is that the tip doesn’t easily locate itself in the head of the terminal or set-screw head. Not as easily as a philips.
 
Never seen such a driver bit, but looks to me like it is intended to fit those screw heads that can be driven with either conventional flat blade, phillips or Robertson (square bit) drivers and would make more positive contact with all three features simultaneously. Once you start wearing it out it will still have more tendency to slip, or poor quality screw heads might let it slip easier as well.
 
That tool looks like the bit included on Deck Screws of certain brands. Usually the bit stays in the box, never used... A #2 bit in an impact driver works great for them.

I just use a #2 square drive screwdriver (Klein makes them) for panel cover screws, breaker screws, etc. Much easier than Phillips IMHO.
 
I use the ecx on device wiring screws, klien screwdiver, works great, or I have a bit for my Milwaukee M12 screwdiver. For the 6/32 yoke screws I use a #1 square driver in the M12. And yes the ecx drivers are good for the AB starters.
 
I use the #1 or 2 Robertson for devices or panel screws. For devices I finish "torquing" them with the #2 slotted bit on the Klein 11-in-1.
Never saw the ecx but would give it a try.
 
And here is a tip...on my drills and battery screwdrivers I glued high strength magnets, they are about 3/4" in dia. I can put spare driver and drill bits on the magnet, as I use the 1/4" hex quick connect type chuck and bits
 
Fmkehoe said:
Just wondering if anybody has any thoughts, pro or con, on a CX screwheads and their corresponding screwdriver tips.View attachment 2552066
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I bought one of these drivers from the supply house a few months back. The manager was ranting and raving about it. Honestly I don’t like it much. I’ve used it a few times and personally I think you’re better off using a #1 square tip driver for your devices.
 
LarryFine said:
It looks like it was made to fit screws that are made to accept multiple bit styles. It's clearly a superimposed square drive and flat drive.
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It seems to me that the hybrid serves at least two goals.
1. To accept two different styles of bit. The flat bit is low tech and ubiquitous, the square drive is suited to automated screw placement by machine.
2. To accept single hybrid bit which combines the high torque without cam out that a flat bit offers with the self centering of the square bit to prevent the flat bit from sliding out the end of the slot.
 
Well, gonna get me one and give it a try.

Tom, that tip about magnets is a good one. I think Ryobi drill/drivers come with a little magnet on base, but I am not a huge fan of that particular Ryobi tool, just doesn't feel right in my hand like DeWalts. But I digress...
 
GoldDigger said:
It seems to me that the hybrid serves at least two goals.
1. To accept two different styles of bit. The flat bit is low tech and ubiquitous, the square drive is suited to automated screw placement by machine.
2. To accept single hybrid bit which combines the high torque without cam out that a flat bit offers with the self centering of the square bit to prevent the flat bit from sliding out the end of the slot.
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Plus you have more contact area on the driving surfaces than you would have with strictly one style or the other of driving tool which should lessen "cam out" as well.
 
kwired said:
Plus you have more contact area on the driving surfaces than you would have with strictly one style or the other of driving tool which should lessen "cam out" as well.
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Yes. On the Sq Drive, it was invented in Canada by a Robertson, and that is what is called there. Robertson offered it to Henry Ford, it didn't work out as the engagement was too solid, so he went with phillips as they would "cam out". I have used Sq Dr for 40 years, you can get hurt with a slotted screw when the driver slips out. Lately I have switched to star or torque drive for wood screws, the ones I use have a drill tip and self countersink.
Anyway try the ECX drivers you will like them
 
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