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250.119 requires EGC to be green when is 6 AWG or smaller. Does that indication applies even if the cable used is type PV-Wire?
You don't need PV wire for the EGC.250.119 requires EGC to be green when is 6 AWG or smaller. Does that indication applies even if the cable used is type PV-Wire?
But I have seen it a number of times.You don't need PV wire for the EGC.
If the EGC is insulated, the insulation must be green or green/yellow striped irrespective of the insulation type, but it does not need to be insulated. Either way, it is easily distinguishable from the other conductors.I have’t don PV in years, I just used like #10 bare to bond the racks and modules.
Must be #6 when exposed at the arrayI have’t don PV in years, I just used like #10 bare to bond the racks and modules.
The explicit requirement for that (i.e. to follow 250.120(C)) was removed from 690 in the 2020 NEC. Most AHJs around here didn't enforce it anyway, although a few did.Must be #6 when exposed at the array
Thankfully, the bad old days of grounding every stick of rail with bare copper unspliced #6 are gone.The explicit requirement for that (i.e. to follow 250.120(C)) was removed from 690 in the 2020 NEC. Most AHJs around here didn't enforce it anyway, although a few did.
Every stick, yes, but still need to bond adjacent rows using bare solid #6 or bonding jumpers, right?Thankfully, the bad old days of grounding every stick of rail with bare copper unspliced #6 are gone.
Yes. in 690.31(B)(2) it is permitted to identify PV system dc conductors of any size (even 6AWG and smaller) by color coding, marking tape, or tagging, so positive and negative can be phase taped, but it does not apply to EGC's.250.119 requires EGC to be green when is 6 AWG or smaller. Does that indication applies even if the cable used is type PV-Wire?
Of course, every piece of metal still needs grounding, but nowadays there are better grounding schemes than running unspliced bare #6 up and down every row of modules with a grounding lug on every stick of rail. That was a real PITA. Most rail splices are now listed as grounding connections.Every stick, yes, but still need to bond adjacent rows using bare solid #6 or bonding jumpers, right?
I hardly ever do rail roof systems, are the modules typically allowed to bond all the rows of rail so you just need to hit the array with an EGC once? I thought u still needed a run of #6 to bond each row of rail.Of course, every piece of metal still needs grounding, but nowadays there are better grounding schemes than running unspliced bare #6 up and down every row of modules with a grounding lug on every stick of rail. That was a real PITA. Most rail splices are now listed as grounding connections.
Yes one grounding lug per row, typically. (And it doesn't necessarily need to be 6awg.) Modules can bond from one rail to the other rail in each row.I hardly ever do rail roof systems, are the modules typically allowed to bond all the rows of rail so you just need to hit the array with an EGC once? I thought u still needed a run of #6 to bond each row of rail.
Seems right, might have been #6 solMust be #6 when exposed at the array
...and no WEEB required!Yes one grounding lug per row, typically. (And it doesn't necessarily need to be 6awg.) Modules can bond from one rail to the other rail in each row.
WEEBs were an interim measure while manufacturers worked on making and listing module clips that would pierce aluminum oxide. They were a pain as well....and no WEEB required!![]()
UL 2703 Listed module mounting systems come with grounding included. Just one EGC connection to the rack. I think most of them still incorporate a WEEB or WEEB like grounding washer in the assembly.I hardly ever do rail roof systems, are the modules typically allowed to bond all the rows of rail so you just need to hit the array with an EGC once? I thought u still needed a run of #6 to bond each row of rail.
Many (most? all?) module clips now have "teeth" that pierce the Al oxide to do what WEEB clips once did.UL 2703 Listed module mounting systems come with grounding included. Just one EGC connection to the rack. I think most of them still incorporate a WEEB or WEEB like grounding washer in the assembly.