Electric Heated floor in Tile Shower
- Thread starter Dennis Alwon
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- Massachusetts
mpd said:
And I might tell you go ahead and find it.
It is not addressed by the NEC so it's really not my problem to prove it is OK.
For what it's worth I personally would not want to install this product, it would weigh on my conscience to much.
cadpoint
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- Durham, NC
You said it was:
It is a class 2 wire system and is UL approved
Ask for a copy of their UL Listing/Approved Letter.
It is a class 2 wire system and is UL approved
Ask for a copy of their UL Listing/Approved Letter.
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
cadpoint said:
You bet I will-- I ain't doing nothing without some proof.
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- Massachusetts
mpd said:
I disagree
Please cite a code section saying that underfloor heat must be listed for use under showers.
The heat is not in the shower, it is in the floor under the shower.
If I install a porcelain keyless in the basement under the tub do I need to prove it is listed to be under a tub?
If I install a receptacle under a hydro tub must I prove it is listed for that location?
This heating system is no more in the tub than the keyless or the receptacle.
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- Massachusetts
mpd said:
I guess I would send you the info on the product but I certainly am not required to do your job for you.
If you have a problem with a listed product that should be between you, UL and the manufacture.
If the info does not say "Not for use under showers" you have no grounds to hold up the job.
Lucky for me here in MA inspectors must accept listed equipment as long as it is installed per the listing.
iwire
that would be all that I would be asking for, as an inspector I am not going to be tracking down info on equipment the contractor is installing, the contractor is installing it, he should have all the info already, it should be no big deal to supply the info or if he does not want to the review would stay rejected or the inpsection would fail until I get the info.
that would be all that I would be asking for, as an inspector I am not going to be tracking down info on equipment the contractor is installing, the contractor is installing it, he should have all the info already, it should be no big deal to supply the info or if he does not want to the review would stay rejected or the inpsection would fail until I get the info.
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
Although I definitely feel that this is a very unusually situation I am trying to understand why I feel reluctant to make this install. The wires are attached to a mat and applied to the subfloor. A skim coat goes over the mat and wires and then the tile on top of that.
Suppose there was a hole in the grout and water gets on the mat. If the wire is a "W" type wire-- so what. It's not bare. What can happen.
Second, scenario may be worse, if the wire insulation gets nicked during install and then the grout fails and water gets in. As we all know --- water is not a good conductor of electricty and the voltage is 24 volts. Is there really a liklihood of death here or injury????
Suppose there was a hole in the grout and water gets on the mat. If the wire is a "W" type wire-- so what. It's not bare. What can happen.
Second, scenario may be worse, if the wire insulation gets nicked during install and then the grout fails and water gets in. As we all know --- water is not a good conductor of electricty and the voltage is 24 volts. Is there really a liklihood of death here or injury????
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