Electrical Qualifier?

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If anyone has information on electrical qualifying I would appreciate their expertise. I recently closed my business in Florida and have been approached twice to qualify others. I am not sure of the going rate. I was offered $1,000 a month, is that fair? I understand their are some risks involved for the primary, I have also been asked to be a secondary in another corporation. All information will be appreciated.
 
tperl said:
I am not sure of the going rate. I was offered $1,000 a month, is that fair?
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That's $50 a day (5 work days a week), at 8 hours a day that would work out to $6.25 an hour. Is that what you value your license at? I don't.
 
Unless you are going to be an active employee available to supervise an installation, it is very likely illegal to sell your license.

Roger
 
If you are State Certified you will have to show the board that you will have at least 50% involvement in daily operations of the company.

You will have to be the qualifying agent for the company, which means if anything ever goes wrong, they will be going after you. Not the unlicensed guy you selling your license to.

I don't recommend doing it unless your going to be involved in the planning and execution of the jobs, and sure wouldn't do it for $1000/month.

Ask yourself this question: If the county level license exams are given several times a year, why doesn't the guy just take the exam ?
 
It isn't a single employee but a corporation which often needs permits for fixed appliance repairs and installations along with maintenance.
 
tperl said:
It isn't a single employee but a corporation which often needs permits for fixed appliance repairs and installations along with maintenance.
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It doesn't matter, you will be the qualifying agent for the corporation to do these repairs etc.. , the first fry cook that gets a shock from a piece of equipment and decides to sue somebody, expect a call.

Maybe Im being a little dramatic, but this could happen, I wouldn't risk it for $1000/month
 
Tperl, read the following FL statute for the responsibilities of a qualifier


Title XXXII
REGULATION OF PROFESSIONS AND OCCUPATIONS
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Chapter 489
CONTRACTING [SIZE=-1]
489.522 Qualifying agents; responsibilities.--
(1)(a) A qualifying agent is a primary qualifying agent unless he or she is a secondary qualifying agent under this section. All primary qualifying agents for a business organization are jointly and equally responsible for supervision of all operations of the business organization; for all field work at all sites; and for financial matters, both for the organization in general and for each specific job.
(b) When a qualifying agent ceases to qualify a business, the qualifying agent must transfer the license to another business, qualify himself or herself as an individual, or place the license in an inactive status within 60 days after termination of the qualifying status with the business.
(2) One of the qualifying agents for a business organization that has more than one qualifying agent may be designated as the sole primary qualifying agent for the business organization by a joint agreement that is executed, on a form provided by the board, by all qualifying agents for the business organization. The joint agreement shall be submitted to the board for approval. If the board determines that the joint agreement is in good order, it shall approve the designation and immediately notify the qualifying agents of such approval. The designation made by the joint agreement is effective upon receipt of the notice by the qualifying agents. The qualifying agent designated for a business organization by a joint agreement is the sole primary qualifying agent for the business organization, and all other qualifying agents for the business organization are secondary qualifying agents.
(a) A designated sole primary qualifying agent has all the responsibilities and duties of a primary qualifying agent, notwithstanding that there are secondary qualifying agents for specified jobs. The designated sole primary qualifying agent is jointly and equally responsible with secondary qualifying agents for field work supervision.
(b) A secondary qualifying agent is responsible only for:
1. The supervision of field work at sites where his or her license was used to obtain the building permit; and
2. Any other work for which he or she accepts responsibility.

A secondary qualifying agent is not responsible for supervision of financial matters.
(c) A primary qualifying agent shall have approval authority for checks, payments, drafts, and contracts issued by or entered into by the business organization.
(3)(a) A qualifying agent who has been designated by a joint agreement as the sole primary qualifying agent for a business organization may terminate this status as such by giving actual notice to the business organization, to the board, and to all secondary qualifying agents of his or her intention to terminate this status. The notice to the board shall include proof satisfactory to the board that he or she has given the notice required in this paragraph. The status of the qualifying agent shall cease upon the designation of a new primary qualifying agent or 60 days after satisfactory notice of termination has been provided to the board, whichever first occurs. If no new primary qualifying agent has been designated within 60 days, all secondary qualifying agents for the business organization shall become primary qualifying agents, unless the joint agreement specifies that one or more of them shall become sole qualifying agents under such circumstances, in which case only they shall become sole qualifying agents. (b) Any change in the status of a qualifying agent is prospective only. A qualifying agent is not responsible for his or her predecessor's actions, but is responsible, even after a change in status, for matters for which he or she was responsible while in a particular status. History.--ss. 12, 23, ch. 88-149; s. 4, ch. 91-429; s. 281, ch. 94-119; s. 496, ch. 97-103; s. 41, ch. 2000-372. [/SIZE]
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Copyright ? 1995-2008 The Florida Legislature
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Roger
 
Rich R said:
It doesn't matter, you will be the qualifying agent for the corporation to do these repairs etc.. , the first fry cook that gets a shock from a piece of equipment and decides to sue somebody, expect a call.

Maybe Im being a little dramatic, but this could happen, I wouldn't risk it for $1000/month
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I see no problem in quilitying a company. The risk is the same weather you hire one man or employ 200. I know many guys who are 100% top notch electricans that cannot quilify to take the test due to no experiance in industral. If you lived all your life in southwest Florida, you had very little time in industrial. you must prove xxx amount of hours to take the test. I past the test in 1982. I could not quilify to take the test under todays standards. The idea is know who your quilifying, keep tabs on them. watch the books. $1000.00 a month is the going rate for a small one or two man shop in Florida.. You must be an officier of the corp and have at least 10% of stock and $$$$$$$ insurance.
 
I was under the impression, correct me if I am wrong, if there is a financial officer for the corporation, the responsible of finance is theirs. I also thought the insurance requirements of the State,purchased by the corp., handled all accident claims. Thanks again for your help. Maybe I need to contact a Florida attorney?
 
Cavie said:
I see no problem in quilifying a company. The risk is the same weather you hire one man or employ 200.
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If I were going to qualify a company I would want it to be a big company. Most of the jobs are engineered and you are not expected to look over every little detail. I would rather pull a permit for an industrial complex than residential sub-divisions. With a big industrial project the owners normally have their own engineers making sure they get their money's worth and the facility is maintained by qualified personnel. The companies that take on those jobs have deeper pockets and better lawyers. If anything ever happens it will probably be tied up in court until long after I'm dead anyway.

I think that to qalifiy for a large shop would be much safer than to qualify for the small timers.

Just an opinion.:wink:
 
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