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bigjohn67

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Plumbing- In bathroom or kitchen and some in slab
HVAC- inside unit, outside condenser
ELECTRICAL - WE ARE IN EVERY WALL, FLOOR AND CEILING!
BEHIND 50 OUTLETS, 20 LIGHT FIXTURES AND 15 SWITCHES.

CUSTOMERS HATE THAT WE ARE SO HIDDEN.
 
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bradleyelectric said:
we ought to just run everything exposed from now on. Protection from physical damage isn't everything its cracked up to be anyway.
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Yeah! Have you seen any of that new flat conductor "tape" junk they have come out with?
 
I go for the rustic/country look and just staple the romex to the outside of the wall. People think it's ugly sometimes but I tell them that once they paint it, they'll never even notice it's there.
 
ItsHot said:
Yeah! Have you seen any of that new flat conductor "tape" junk they have come out with?
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You mean type FCC, that's been out since at least the 70's? ;)

It's way overrated. Just use this dandy stuff, which is also dual rated as THHN:

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ItsHot said:
How can the flat tape conductor junk even get a ul listing? No wonder we are going to have complete afci coverage!
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Typically, it's only used in offices with those carpet squares that you can just pick up. It seems to be durable stuff, but each "system" is manufacturer specific. I don't see enough of it to recognize the manufacturer, so that's a big hurdle right off the bat when you have to do MAC work on it. I think that AMP, T&B, and Hubbell are the only people still making it.
 
I think we're talking about apples and oranges here:

This is Flat Wire:

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It's designed to be installed just like the "tape and mud" process to finish sheetrock.
 
mdshunk said:
You mean type FCC, that's been out since at least the 70's? ;)

It's way overrated. Just use this dandy stuff, which is also dual rated as THHN:

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i never seen that stuff before. can you justrun it under the carpet without conduit or anything? can you link me to there website?
 
electricalperson said:
i never seen that stuff before. can you justrun it under the carpet without conduit or anything? can you link me to there website?
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Sorry, didn't intend to dupe anyone. That's PhotoShopped. I sorta thought it would be obvious. Sorry again.
 
bradleyelectric said:
we ought to just run everything exposed from now on. Protection from physical damage isn't everything its cracked up to be anyway.
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Shoot, why even run insulated? Run her bare with a big flashing light that says, "Do Not Touch!" :grin: :roll:

Ohhh, the joy of some customers! "He's got long hair and a beard, make sure everything is locked up tight honey!!!" :roll: :cool: :mad: "Is he still in the basement? "There's nothing of value down there, is there?"

Have I honestly heard that, no, but it was clear as day. Yes Maam, I just pocketed your furnace, that's why I wore baggy pants, so you wouldn't see it!

Jeez Loueaze:roll:
 
peter d said:
I think we're talking about apples and oranges here:

This is Flat Wire:
It's designed to be installed just like the "tape and mud" process to finish sheetrock.
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Last I heard, there was no UL listing on that stuff yet. Is that still the case? It's been a couple years since I've read anything about it. I think they were shooting for it to be part of a listed "system" and not a wiring method.
 
ItsHot said:
Thanks for getting me straight Peter. Flat wire is what I meant to say. I talk a lot,but don't say much!
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Interesting stuf, in any event. I can only hope that it is a miserable market failure.
 
76nemo said:
Shoot, why even run insulated? Run her bare with a big flashing light that says, "Do Not Touch!" :grin: :roll:

Ohhh, the joy of some customers! "He's got long hair and a beard, make sure everything is locked up tight honey!!!" :roll: :cool: :mad: "Is he still in the basement? "There's nothing of value down there, is there?"

Have I honestly heard that, no, but it was clear as day. Yes Maam, I just pocketed your furnace, that's why I wore baggy pants, so you wouldn't see it!

Jeez Loueaze:roll:
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i hate customers. a lot of them judge a book by its cover. i tend to stutter when i talk and let me tell you how many people think im stupid because of it. they dont think im so stupid when i hand them a bill
 
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