Elevator EGC

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AC\DC

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EC
All right another battle. I’m being told that I can’t use the EMT as the equipment ground for an elevator in our Oregon specialty code. There is an amendment for flexible metal conduit that I have to run a ground, but that’s it. I didn’t see anything in the NEC. is there something that I’m missing it’s just from panel to disconnect from the disconnect to the controller and 120 V for some guys pump. I don’t quite know what it’s for
 
ya I know that inspector tell me no for elevator

I already got my hot tub one going to state inspector I going to be known as a a$@ of if I keep pushing them lol

I’d double and triple checked all or amendments and I didn’t see anything
After the manufactured home specialty code got me which things 15 years old almost needs to be updated. I’m exceptionally paranoid.
 
Don't know if it will help but look into ASME A17.1
 
What would you guys do as a business practice? I’m trying to get in with this elevator Contractor, but he kinda got snippy with me when I said I don’t need to listen to the inspector. I’m assuming he just wants to have everything go smooth on his end, and if this inspector is gonna be a dick if he could make hell, for us but then he’s also not supposed to be vengeful on his inspections
 
Is this possibly in the elevator code for Oregon? Not sure if you looked there or just the electrical code.
 
Yeah, I did a PDF search on the form and looked for everything and then our electrical code just modified 620 for just flexible. Metal conduit has to have a EGC that’s probably where the confusion is coming from.
 
AC\DC said:
Yeah, it just references. Do it to its listing and follow the NEC basically thanks for that, though. I never saw that before.
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This is is not what you want to hear but I have done elevators in three states and they all pretty much said whatever the elevator inspector wants is what he gets.

Yeah, it sucks.
 
roger said:
This is is not what you want to hear but I have done elevators in three states and they all pretty much said whatever the elevator inspector wants is what he gets.

Yeah, it sucks.
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Wow, that’s very tyrannical-I probably fight that one. What makes them so special they have to have a supervisor too, and they have to follow rules.
 
Question my EMT is a weird fitting so maybe he’s got me here. It looks like it’s crimp on and soldered on. but it is an old installation I’ve seen them elsewhere and other older buildings
 
My j man is telling me that that’s not solder at top. It’s just dirt. He’s gonna clean it off and take another picture but he says it’s got teeth in that coupling almost like MC connectors and it actually crimps on it. He says they’re a pain to get off you almost have to cut them.

Does a bite type or press fit EMT connector ring a bell it may be an actual fitting but now my question is is it listed for bonding or do I avoid since it was a compliant install at one time?????
 
AC\DC said:
My j man is telling me that that’s not solder at top. It’s just dirt. He’s gonna clean it off and take another picture but he says it’s got teeth in that coupling almost like MC connectors and it actually crimps on it. He says they’re a pain to get off you almost have to cut them.

Does a bite type or press fit EMT connector ring a bell it may be an actual fitting but now my question is is it listed for bonding or do I avoid since it was a compliant install at one time?????
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They make simpush and the bridgeport equivalent ones currently that are listed as effective equipment grounding.
 
I never got involved with an elevator job. But my old boss told me he flunked his first electrical test on an elevator question. He also told me in MA an electrician can't touch elevator wiring. Don't know if that has any truth it was a long time ago.
 
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