EMT and romex, what are the rules?

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I have been told a bunch of different things on running romex in EMT:

"Yea you can but not "heat rated" :confused: " - home depot guy...
"Sure its ok but you have to derate your wire after a certain length"
"Nope, can't do it" - another home depot guy...

Are you allowed to run THHN romex in EMT pipe?

our garage has a GFCI outlet near the garage door where we hang our hand tools like shovels and all and the wires always getting banged up. I want to run these two wires, which go from the outlet on the wall to the corner of the room which is only a foot away from the outlet and then they lead over the frame of the garage door...I wanna put these in EMT pipe starting from the outlet box and ending at the top of the garage door frame which is away from any danger.

These are 2 lines of 14-2 romex. Actually i'm not really sure about this wire as I have never really seen it much before. It's light blue in color and had the following text on it:
"E18679 (UL) AWG 14-2 WITH AWG 14 GROUND TYPE NM-B 600V"

If anyone has any info on this wire that would help too.

photos of the wire:

 
Dave85 said:
"Yea you can but not "heat rated" :confused: " - home depot guy...
"Sure its ok but you have to derate your wire after a certain length"
"Nope, can't do it" - another home depot guy...
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1st off...you should know better than to ask any of the Homers anything.


Easiest fix is to simply cover that area with sheetrock or plywood...it'll give you some cover and maybe put a shelf on.
 
stickboy1375 said:
Love all the twists in the wire looks GREAT!!!
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He needs to get a girlfriend who's an electrician and have her teach him how to run wires nice and pretty.

Oy. Makes my eyes hurt looking at that mess.
 
yea i normally don't ask the home depot guys any of this stuff but i was there anyways.....plus its fun seeing what answers they come up with sometimes. lol

I didn't install that wiring...it was the original electrician who did allot of crazy things like putting outdoor flood lights on the circuit for the outdoor GFCIs......
This mess makes me want to just redo it all but i'm not about to go tearing into that 150A panel..never know whats in that old thing...

the garage is finished off and all...this wire is stapled to the Sheetrock ...(yea that original electrician again)
Have you ever seen a microwave running on an extension cord from the counter top outlets which are only on one 20A GFCI circuit?...we have that too.

our house is about 18 years old but theres some crazy things i have slowly been fixing up over the past year for my dad. Dont get me started on the plumbing

water main comes in from the nice sprinkler line type pipe...


and last week we had to do some work on the sprinklers so we found the valves after some digging and saw a nice piece of aluminum wire...got the meter to it and it is dead so we trimmed it out of the way...must be some crazy new insulated ground rod lol ...actually we think its scrap from construction back in the days...we have an underground feed for out panel so they must have pulled the wire out to unroll it and just trimmed and left that piece there


I'm going to a votech school...i just wasn't sure what thee code section was. thanks for the post on that stickboy1375
 
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bradleyelectric said:
Get a job working with a qualified electrician. That is the best training available.
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Easier said than done. Ive been searching for a job for 8 months now. Im going to votech at night for electric and college classes in the day so i have to get a part time job. None of the electricians want to deal with part timers like me for some crazy reason.

im starting to look for jobs at home depot now in the electrical department. Im running low on cash at this point so i cant stay out of work for much longer. Ill be the only one at HD who knows what hes talking about ;)
 
snapped a few pics of the outlet setup....looks great dont it? lol



under the red line is where the crawl space starts which is where those wires go to the panel in the basement....after hitting about 4 jumction boxes to go to about 4 different things
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Dave85 said:
Ill be the only one at HD who knows what hes talking about ;)
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Why do you know about floor coverings, wood, paint, plumbing, HVAC, tools?

They are not going to put you in electrical.
 
celtic said:
Why do you know about floor coverings, wood, paint, plumbing, HVAC, tools?

They are not going to put you in electrical.
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you're probably right about that but its close to home and i need a job at this point...
 
Dave85 said:
Easier said than done. Ive been searching for a job for 8 months now. Im going to votech at night for electric and college classes in the day so i have to get a part time job. None of the electricians want to deal with part timers like me for some crazy reason.

im starting to look for jobs at home depot now in the electrical department. Im running low on cash at this point so i cant stay out of work for much longer. Ill be the only one at HD who knows what hes talking about ;)
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If you're not tied down to where you live now, get ahold of JATC in New Orleans. If you're already experienced you go stand out near the Lowes on Elysian Fields and I-10 and by the end of the day you have a job.

Might take a bit of time before you've got a house that doesn't include free rats, but to solve that problem you get a cat. Mine is a highly skilled rat hunter -- her mom brought me a few kills, even :)
 
stickboy1375 said:
Love all the twists in the wire looks GREAT!!!
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While you're ironing your romex, I'm starting the third house. ;)

I'd agree with whoever said cover it with sheetrock and forget about it. Piping it would be more bother than it's worth.
 
I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. I just don't see a notable number of twists in the two pictures in the original post. The routing wasn't done too neatly, but it's not that bad, IMO.
 
georgestolz said:
I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. I just don't see a notable number of twists in the two pictures in the original post. The routing wasn't done too neatly, but it's not that bad, IMO.
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The routing is disgusting. I see several pieces that don't look to be supported correctly. It would take an act of G-d to figure out what went where, or if a wire needed to be replaced, to unsnarl it from the rest of the rat's nest.
 
With the proper tool ( a romex spinner ) NM can be run faster than just dropping a roll on the floor and pulling from the coil.Looks much better too.
IMO when an inspector walks into a romex explosion they will nit pick it to death.But I agree better to just cover it up and be done with it.The time it would take to straighten it out isn`t worth it.Besides why fix what isn`t really broken.
 
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