EMT and romex, what are the rules?

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Don't let these guys razz ya,, cover it up, the twists are not significant, (IMO) to cause issues,, keep your chin up you seem to be eager for knowledge and a hard worker,, things will come your way, this field can always use guys like you...

Ed
 
ive wired panels before and would never ever run something like this...as ive said before...its just crazy and just looks bad.

this is the back shop, its staying as is unless the inspector says something when we sell the house.

As for the outlet, i just got done running it in EMT.



Looks way better now
 
I also got to tear into that main panel today as well...not too much fun..

the panel is really old so its smaller than todays new panels...therefore the wires are just bunched in there.

 
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George I didn`t have time to go through all the posts on the link but were those pvc ma`s used to enter the panel ??? the pic didn`t actually show what they were.I can agree on one point once behind drywall it all looks the same .As long as it works :)
 
Dave, that looks better. :)

Here's a tip - for exposed work, use pencil instead of marker. It's less visible in the end, and doesn't show through paint, if that comes up. :)

Stick, do you want a medal or a chest to pin it on?
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Dave,

I don't think that panel is too small for all those wires. I think that they look horrible because visually they just look like a bit of a mess.

A neatly organized, but packed, panel can hold more than an unorganized and less full panel. The same thing applies to junk drawers and computer cabinets. I went looking for examples of origami wiring in computer cabinets, but ever since Microsoft came out with a computer they call "Origami" all the Google links go there.

The basic idea, however, is to run all the wires as parallel as possible, then make right-angle (or sweeping curve, as required) bends. With data cables, we use things that are closer to origami techniques than anything I learned when I was an electronic tech decades ago. The result is that things stay in place and out of the way of everything else, much better. The benefit for computer cases, for anyone who cares, is that airflow through the case is dramatically improved.
 
Dave: I appreciate your williness to learn. Most electricans are condensending, as we all hear "well I can do that electrical" and then we see what a mess they made.

I started out 30 years ago not knowing too much, and then self taught myself.
I started with the small version of Wiring Simplified, it used to have a hole in the top to hang on a nail. You may have one at your store. I then bought the bigger complete version of that book.
So in 30 years I will expect to see you as a moderator on this site.

I don't like to help DIYers as what else are they not asking???
Are you going to pull a permit and inspection?
Electrical contractors have a lot on the line. We drive trucks with names on the side, have to go to classes and keep up with the code changes.
We compete unfairly with the trunk slammers who now can buy most electrical supplies at the big boxes, install without a permit or license.
 
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