Does anybody know where in the nec it states that emt cannot be used as a means to support other luminaires? Such as a short section of emt tubing spanning across roof trusses and then running your luminaire support up to and from that span of emt. I have done this before for rc cans in a dropped ceiling (short pieces of emt) and on commercial jobs for chain supported flourescents where the room layout does not fall on a structural member.I have never had any inspectors fail me for this but have questioned the method with no code article cited.This is my first post,so any help would be appreciated.
Emt as a means of support
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You can use empty EMT for anything you want.
Once the EMT is part of a wiring method 300.11(B) prohibits using the EMT to support pretty much anything.
Once the EMT is part of a wiring method 300.11(B) prohibits using the EMT to support pretty much anything.
chris kennedy
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In uses not permitted.
Edit: What Mr D. said.
Edit: What Mr D. said.
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It sounds to me like he is taking about spanning trusses with empty tubing and supporting the fixture from that.
If that is the case IMO nothing in the NEC applies to it.
If that is the case IMO nothing in the NEC applies to it.
chris kennedy
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After reading the OP again, yes it seems this is the case.
To play devils advocate, can you pull me up the engineered support specs for EMT?
After reading the OP again, yes it seems this is the case.
To play devils advocate, can you pull me up the engineered support specs for EMT?
Well, there are products made just for instances similar to this, Caddy is one manufacturer.
Roger
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can you pull me up the engineered support specs for EMT?
Of course, but I am not going to do your homework. :wink:
I agree with this. IMO EMT is only MT until you add wiring to it (E) or make it part of a wiring system, then it is EMT.
rules regarding the uses of MT are not found in the NEC.
you can use MT for anything you wish as long as it will physically carry the weight, my wife uses scrap EMT(-E) for staking her tomato plants.
Heck, you can use EMT for building racks! use the B-Line back-to-backs (part # BP-8-P-8) for 1/2" supported between cables, or all-threads, and away you go in commercial!
Footnote on the bottom of page says read safety/instruction sheets in packages before use....Must be the legalese attachment.
Footnote on the bottom of page says read safety/instruction sheets in packages before use....Must be the legalese attachment.
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chris kennedy
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I agree too. It's nothing more than a tubular metal support system until conductors go into it.
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Pierre C Belarge
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Now, if you were to go over to the gardening forum, they have a raging debate going on about the use of EMT as stakes for tomato plants.
You should go there before she uses them again next year.
Jesse7623
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EMT, RMC, IMC w/o conductors in it is just "round stock"
thanks for the gravity check
:grin:
tryinghard
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This may be in violation; TMT??
Jim W in Tampa
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So if i order EMT i should return it if it has no wires ????????????
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