estimating equipment
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estimating equipment
somewhat like a retail store that is open to the deck. ceiling or deck about 20' to 25' and is wide open for you to drive with no difficulty. the other thing is to be used to run homerun conduits to its closest location using the deck or the joists, branch conduit, and finally to hang fixtures that are either chain hung let say 16' from the floor to top of fixture. hope you can help with some insight. If there is any other info needed let me know.
somewhat like a retail store that is open to the deck. ceiling or deck about 20' to 25' and is wide open for you to drive with no difficulty. the other thing is to be used to run homerun conduits to its closest location using the deck or the joists, branch conduit, and finally to hang fixtures that are either chain hung let say 16' from the floor to top of fixture. hope you can help with some insight. If there is any other info needed let me know.
dduffee260
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How long is it going to take you? Check the price of a rental for a week, month or so. Put the price into you bid and mark it up some of you feel the need. If it is a larger project where you are going to need a lift for 3 to 6 months total project, then check out auctions, equipment vendors or rental places for a lift purchase.
We have several, the first and best lift we bought was a 19ft x 30" wide indoor, about 6 years ago. We paid $2500 for it and it has paid for itself about 6 times over at least. Not to mention the convenience of having a lift when you want it.
Seems like a lift rents for around $400 a month including delivery and pickup. The thing here is make the owner or the project pay for the cost to build their building. No sense in you having to pay for someone else's building.
We have several, the first and best lift we bought was a 19ft x 30" wide indoor, about 6 years ago. We paid $2500 for it and it has paid for itself about 6 times over at least. Not to mention the convenience of having a lift when you want it.
Seems like a lift rents for around $400 a month including delivery and pickup. The thing here is make the owner or the project pay for the cost to build their building. No sense in you having to pay for someone else's building.
bradleyelectric
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pepevegac said:
Do you have any idea how to estimate time it takes to do these tasks? I don't mean the guess method that used to always take me at least twice as long to actually do it. I mean 1 hour per fixture, so long per 100' of 3/4" EMT? Or are you planning on doing this T&M? Just wandering how you are pricing the job without knowing how long it takes to do the tasks that you need a lift for.
I would increase my labor on the aerial portions of the job be a minimum of 1.50% - 1.75%...possible higher - I haven't seen the location, nor do I know if your crew is adapt at working that high ~ if the guys don't "feel" safe, they will move slower.
Account for EVERY item....from rod/hangers to lamps including wirenuts - every item installed will affect the labor units. Also include the EXTERIOR fixtures.
This increase will also give you a basis for the time needed to rent the machine. You will also need to add some additional time for "drive time" ...once a lift shows up, it needs to be in constant motion(production) or you're wasting money(no production).
Don't forget to include pick-up/drop off costs on the rental, clean-up of the lift, fuel(is it gas ~ gas/diesel/propane? does it need to be plugged in?), etc and be prepared to purchase your own fall protection devices (PPE) ~ while the units usulayy come with PPE, the rental companies HAMMER you on price.
PPE and fall protection requirements may require specific training from qualified persons.
Account for EVERY item....from rod/hangers to lamps including wirenuts - every item installed will affect the labor units. Also include the EXTERIOR fixtures.
This increase will also give you a basis for the time needed to rent the machine. You will also need to add some additional time for "drive time" ...once a lift shows up, it needs to be in constant motion(production) or you're wasting money(no production).
Don't forget to include pick-up/drop off costs on the rental, clean-up of the lift, fuel(is it gas ~ gas/diesel/propane? does it need to be plugged in?), etc and be prepared to purchase your own fall protection devices (PPE) ~ while the units usulayy come with PPE, the rental companies HAMMER you on price.
PPE and fall protection requirements may require specific training from qualified persons.
RRelec
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I agree with the above totally. I had a modifier in my software that I could add additional time as the item/assembly was taken off. I also estimated the lift(s) in use only 80% of the day productive time. You should consider the time frame you have to get the work done, and how many lifts you really need. One man on a ladder and another on a lift is costly as far as prodution goes. A helper on the ground can also pre-fab for a man in a lift.
I always rented, the costs involved with transporting, storing and maintenance, didn't justify the purchase for me. One month (used) to cost just a little more than a couple of weeks. I also shared the cost, or sub-let so to speak. Does everyone still have to lock and chain?
R
I always rented, the costs involved with transporting, storing and maintenance, didn't justify the purchase for me. One month (used) to cost just a little more than a couple of weeks. I also shared the cost, or sub-let so to speak. Does everyone still have to lock and chain?
R
I always figured the duration of the job my lifts. If the job is 8 weeks then the lift will be there 8 weeks. If I can have them picked up earlier I would. The cost of pick up and delivery keep going up so it is cheaper to just leave them there.
I agree with the 80% of the day productive time, some places will not let you leave them in the store, so you have to drive them outside and bring them in each day. I like to tarp mine if they are outside, keeps them dry if it rains or snows.
I agree with the 80% of the day productive time, some places will not let you leave them in the store, so you have to drive them outside and bring them in each day. I like to tarp mine if they are outside, keeps them dry if it rains or snows.
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