European 220v outlet kitchen install

[ritelec]

Also. Looks like 210.6A is cord and plug.

What if the 1440va or less appliance is hard wired ?

 

[iwire]

1440 va or less?

If the appliance (blender/toaster) is more than 1440 va (6 ampish) would it be permitted?

Yes, and the toaster might be but that's an awful big blender.

I don't really care either way, just pointing out a code rule many are unaware of.

 

[iwire]

Also. Looks like 210.6A is cord and plug.

What if the 1440va or less appliance is hard wired ?

Hardwired no issue at all, but the OP was asking about plugs.

 

[ritelec]

Yes, and the toaster might be but that's an awful big blender.

I don't really care either way, just pointing out a code rule many are unaware of.

BIG blender. That's funny. Big like NY !!

thanks for the code reference.

 

[kwired]

BIG blender. That's funny. Big like NY !!

thanks for the code reference.

I've wired up 50HP blenders before - but none were in a dwelling

 

[Frank DuVal]

Yes and no. Most European voltages are 230/415 (at least what I have dealt with). Not sure if the appliance(s) will be able to operate properly using the L-L (black-white) 240V.

???

What does the appliance care if one of the power leads is connected to earth (Grounded conductor)? And if it did, using a step down transformer would not give this (grounded conductor) anyway!

230 to 240 is less than 5% variation on voltage. Running the appliance on our standard 120/240 service would mean no wire in the appliance (mains connected wire) would be over 120 Volts to the case ground, unlike the European version with a lead 230 Volts to case ground.

 

[kwired]

???

using a step down transformer would not give this (grounded conductor) anyway!

That would depend if you grounded one of the secondary conductors or not

 

[growler]

They told me the appliance's that they have is a blender and a small toaster oven.

Which makes it very likely an NEC violation for you to install an 240 outlet in this home for those appliances.

Whick makes me think that when people want something like this is it really worth all the trouble.

Do they really make better blenders and toaster ovens in other parts of the world? When you think of the trouble and cost to install something like this you know the people must have more money than brains.

 

[hbiss]

Do they really make better blenders and toaster ovens in other parts of the world? When you think of the trouble and cost to install something like this you know the people must have more money than brains.

More than likely the same manufacturer makes the same product for sale in the US. In the case of a blender and toaster oven it has to be less expensive to just buy new than to do what you are suggesting.

Part of being a professional is knowing when to tell the customer no.

-Hal

 

[mbrooke]

Whick makes me think that when people want something like this is it really worth all the trouble.

Do they really make better blenders and toaster ovens in other parts of the world? When you think of the trouble and cost to install something like this you know the people must have more money than brains.

They can give you more power. For example the double wides (4 slots) are limited to about 1,500 -1,800 watts here in the US (900 watts max per section) while the EU version can go to 3000 watts or more.

 

[kwired]

Part of being a professional is knowing when to tell the customer to get a handyman.

-Hal

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