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Good for you. Glad you can cause havoc for everyone else an not fail your electrical inspection. I am sure you would be hired again by a GC after doing all of that right?
First. Most GC's do not care. They care about who is cheapest (for the most part). If EC fail an inspection, EC has to fix it. This doesn't cost the GC anything. If it does hold up their schedule, EC is probably fined as outlined in job specs. (again, GC lost no money, EC did)
If EC is low number on the next job, EC gets the job. Even if EC failed an inspection on previous job.
that wouldn't be your concern. it would be the building inspector's job to point out.Apparently you don't do the above because you are aware of other requirements.
What is that?????? and how does that affect what my inspection application form states??Yes I do perform other inspections because I am a multi-discipline inspector.
Keep slammin away rather than trying to expand your knowledge and understand that the NEC is not the only game in town and often is not the only standard that applies.
This is where YOU do not understand Your job.
YOUR job is to inspect the Electrical items listed on my Electrical Application per NEC.
The NEC references the NFPA 72 so you probably have that standard in your truck too right? NFPA 497-2004 & 499-2004 are also referred to along with direction for you ro refer to ANSI/NEMA 250-1991, ANSI/UL 1203-1994, ISA-RP12.12.03-2002, ANSI/ISA-12.12.01-2000, ANSI/ NFPA 496-2003, ANSI/API RP 14F-1999 and the list can go on.
This is mostly mumbo-jumbo that really does not affect the standard Electricain working in the field. The current version of the NEC is all he needs.
??? There are Code Making Panels. You can submit a Code Change, I can, anybody can. There is a process.The NEC gets a lot of its information from other established codes.
I am not slamming anyone and I am certainly not holier than thou and have explained that. Change is coming to your town soon and I was hoping that I could get that point across since that seems to be the biggest grip here.
No. You made a list of Code Violations. Some of those items were NOT Code Violations at all. Some didn't have enough info to decide if they were.
I grew up in PA and my first job in this trade was in PA. Most of PA didn't follow any Code for many years, and alot of rural places didn't have any inspections to be heard of.The electricians in PA lived and died by the NEC alone until the I-codes were adopted then they had to step up to the plate and learn more or fail inspections.
Since you said in an earlier post that you were opposite Pittsburg, then you must be near Philly.
I work all around that area. At one time I had over 25 municipality licenses (and that was Before the IRC was adopted Statewide). Upland, Ridley, Chester, Marion, Springfield, Broomall, and a whole bunch more. We also work in West Chester and that surrounding area up to Pheonixville and Landsdale, Conshy, the list goes on.
My Brother's company works from State College area to Harrisburg and York.
I get a big concensus of PA inspectors.
Some are good, some are bad. MANY, overstep their bounds and scope.
And Many are very under-educated as far as the NEC is concerned. (but so are alot of the unregulated, unlicensed Electricans) PA has definately got the 'cart before the horse'.
The responses from some of the ECs has not surprised me and even a moderator has commented that this would cause problems. I see it all the time whenever we don't pass an inspection. We are all human but react differently when we fail.
Bob's concern (IMO) is that he read your initial list and saw issues with it. Knowing that some of the very intelligent and highly NEC versed (unlike myself), would pick it apart.
You as the Electrical Inspector, unless specifically hired by a Municipality as a Building inspector, have no authority to Fail an inspection for anything other than an NEC Violation.