Failed my inspection today…

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So his reasoning for wanting the 16” of 2x4 was because of shifting in the foundation and he didn’t want the wire to become damaged.


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So his reasoning for wanting the 16” of 2x4 was because of shifting in the foundation and he didn’t want the wire to become damaged.


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OK, if attachment surface is moving then you need something considered flexible enough to bridge any parts that are not moving together at same rate, direction, etc. If the item in question is not flexible but can take advantage of some sort of expansion joint might also be acceptable. can't recall seeing one of those for SE cables:unsure:
 
So, I guess you can't use SE or SER outside if the house is brick, stone or concrete..........................

I would give him a little bit of a hard time, just to let him know you do know the code. But I wouldn't start a big ordeal over it.

I had a friend who was an inspector. His pet peeve was electricians calling him wanting him to tell them how to do the job because they wouldn't even attempt to use the code book. He didn't mind a few questions. But many asked him stuff they should have known.
It happens all the time, especially home owners.
 
It happens all the time, especially home owners.
They kind of resolved that problem maybe 10-15 years ago with the State AHJ anyway. One the biggest complaints of inspectors was having to teach HO's as they go, even though they might even been adding correction notice fees for each time they come back to reinspect, they still were getting tired of doing it. They figured out a way to stop a majority of it by taking a good hard look at how the rules were worded and never even had to change any the wording. Homeowners were always allowed to install wiring in their own primary residence, but they decided a brand new home is not a primary residence until it is completed and occupied by the owner. So now those new homes can't be wired by the owner unless they can prove that it is currently their primary residence in a way that is acceptable, a cot, lantern and camping stove won't cut it either. I don't think many, maybe even none have been able to do so since they took this new approach. That mostly leaves HO's that are upgrading a service, putting on an addition being about the only ones that can pull permits for wiring in their home. Many smaller projects where the service won't be changed in any way don't require permits anyway.
 
Homeowners were always allowed to install wiring in their own primary residence, but they decided a brand new home is not a primary residence until it is completed and occupied by the owner. So now those new homes can't be wired by the owner unless they can prove that it is currently their primary residence in a way that is acceptable, a cot, lantern and camping stove won't cut it either.

That's a shame. I was really hoping to fix up my own place one day, Notebook style, but with permits and no girl to annoy me, lol.

Edit: At least that's what I've HEARD the movie is about *shifty eyes*
 
That's a shame. I was really hoping to fix up my own place one day, Notebook style, but with permits and no girl to annoy me, lol.

Edit: At least that's what I've HEARD the movie is about *shifty eyes*
(Here) If you are licensed you still could, if it is proper license for what you are doing. Technically a J man still needs to work under a contractor, just doesn't need direct supervision from the contractor.
 
Technically a J man still needs to work under a contractor, just doesn't need direct supervision from the contractor.
Not this young J man. I'm done with that racket. Ain't no one buying a boat on my blood, sweat, and tears, lol.
 
I know the rules can vary from place to place, but why call it a "contractor license" if others can still do contracting activity?
Are you implying that contractors actually follow the rules of supervision? lol. Because finding the licensed guy on the jobsite in independent residential work is like trying to catch a leprechaun, lol. It's partly why I prefer to work for myself. The licensed guy is actually on the job. First in, last out.
 
Are you implying that contractors actually follow the rules of supervision? lol. Because finding the licensed guy on the jobsite in independent residential work is like trying to catch a leprechaun, lol. It's partly why I prefer to work for myself. The licensed guy is actually on the job. First in, last out.
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Not this young J man. I'm done with that racket. Ain't no one buying a boat on my blood, sweat, and tears, lol.
I take that to mean you are a J man, yet somehow are taking on things that need a contractor license? Unless a J man can run a business where you are (probably with some limitations that the contractor license holder won't have) or maybe you work on projects that don't require permits or inspections for whatever reason so nobody is checking you on the licensing thing?
 
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I take that to mean you are a J man, yet somehow are taking on things that need a contractor license? Unless a J man can run a business where you are (probably with some limitations that the contractor license holder won't have) or maybe you work on projects that don't require permits or inspections for whatever reason so nobody is checking you on the licensing thing?
I just mean it terms of experience, which I take to be at about the 10 year mark. As previously discussed, Illinois is very different from elsewhere in the country. An official journeyman rank is only something you can obtain with the union, which I do not belong to. Illinois does not offer accredited independent exams for journeyman status (at least not when last I checked). Can you guess why? lol
 
I just mean it terms of experience, which I take to be at about the 10 year mark. As previously discussed, Illinois is very different from elsewhere in the country. An official journeyman rank is only something you can obtain with the union, which I do not belong to. Illinois does not offer accredited independent exams for journeyman status (at least not when last I checked). Can you guess why? lol
I could see it being a case of Chicago area having it's own AHJ('s) and the union pretty much controls them but the rest of the state may be completely different in how things work.
 
I’ve been wiring a house on an island for the past few weeks. Turns out I failed the rough inspection. For two reason
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first one was the kitchen counter outlet was within 24” of the kitchen sink. The second one was I used SER cable for the service. The ceilings in the basement are fairly high for around here. They are about 8’ ceilings. I came in with my SER installed plywood to the wall and secured the SER before it entered the panel. However since it is in about 2-3’ of contact with the cement foundation before it hits the plywood that is against code and said I need to install a 2x4 going vertical to protect the SER from touching the foundation…. I knew he would find something to fail me for since I’m an out of town electrician.


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A man named Blaise Pascal was born 399 years ago. He actually created the first mechanical calculator at age 18 to help his father. He also invented the syringe and is the father of hydraulics - a very wise person. Your feelings about your inspection reminded me of something he wrote. "When we wish to correct with advantge, and to show another that he errs, we must notice from what side he views the matter for on that side it is usually his truth, and admit that truth to him, but reveal to him the side on which it is false. He is satisfied with that, for he sees that he was not mistaken, and that he only failed to see all sides." We cannot expect ourselves or an inspector to know everything. I always found it easier to deal with folks by acknowledging what they hold as truth, carefully listening to them, and then discussing what I bring to the discussion along the lines of "there is so much to learn, it is hard to know everything". Pascal observed that because we perceive that our senses and knowledge is true, people are seldom offended by considering the other person may not have your understanding or insight and by this, add to the knowledge of both. Pascal is worth reading.



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