Fastener for commercial ceiling

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what is a time effective way to secure steel wires to the ceiling, when the ceiling is concrete? Well this is for the support of our lights in a drop ceiling, the above ceiling is concrete slab.Some of the lights will be near the I beams but a lot more are going to be far.
 
Viper

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http://www.toolup.com/itw-ramset-red-head/viper.html
 
The quickest way is to have some body else do it. Namely, the ceiling tile installer. Whether this is done via a bribe of a case of Meister Brau or a subcontract, I am not privy to but whatever he uses, the method would be the same.
The is mention of steel beams. It is not necessary that the steel wires be absolutely vertical. In fact, splaying them out in a V shape up to 45? would actually enhance stability. So use a beam clamp and attach a bunch of your grid wires to that.
Also think outside the carton and consider epoxying a suitable trinket of hardware with a hook or loop on it to the ceiling.
If you can install your luminaires before the ceiling grid is installed, then just use the other guys wires. Paint them yellow or something. :cool:
~Peter
 
If your going to shoot the ceiling thats fine, but ones results might vary depending on the age of the concrete! Even 30 verse 90 days can vary widely. With early aged concrete a shot will just blast the concrete skin of the concrete. A bad explanation is to use a bolied egg, you crack it but you don't get inside, IE one shoots and just blast everything and the nail just fails. I just reload and shoot in the same spot!(see closing line)

If the spec's exist, read and note the PSI of the concrete. This could well be a conversation point with ones sales person or brand name provider.
They sell different power shots, they should direct you accordingly!

I've been on job's were the the client would not let use just shoot!
 
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cadpoint said:
If your going to shoot the ceiling thats fine, but ones results might vary depending on the age of the concrete! Even 30 verse 90 days can vary widely. With early aged concrete a shot will just blast the concrete skin of the concrete. A bad explanation is to use a bolied egg, you crack it but you don't get inside, IE one shoots and just blast everything and the nail just fails. I just reload and shoot in the same spot!(see closing line)

If the spec's exist, read and note the PSI of the concrete. This could well be a conversation point with ones sales person or brand name provider.
They sell different power shots, they should direct you accordingly!

I've been on job's were the the client would not let use just shoot!
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Probably Duke
 
iwire said:
I don't think 'licensed' is the correct choice of words.

OSHA requires the operators of Powder-actuated tools to be 'trained'. Being trained is much diffrent then being licensed. :)

See this link from OSHA.

http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=INTERPRETATIONS&p_id=25308
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We bought a Hilti gun and had to receive training on that certain model of tool. At the end we received a card stating we had been trained and the model of the actuated tool was checked on the card. He told us not to use the gun with out having the card in our pocket and it had to be the same model tool that was checked on the card or OSHA would be unhappy.
 
We always tried to get the ceiling man to install our runs - we provided the ceiling clips with the wire attached --our's would be painted green. And most of the time he would also give us the materials to make them up.
 
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