My daughter "was" afraid of heights >>>> but wanted to see what was in the attic. 9ft ceiling scuttle hole and a 8ft ladder,. Her 3yearold little brother could make it, she could too. She would hold onand shiver like a wet cat. She made it up but froze on the way down. "OH-NOOO its going to fall over" I said " its in the hallway ther is no way it can tip over" I then proceded to tip the ladder bouncing it off each wall ( with her on top) and after I stopped, and, she calmed down, She then realized she was OK, and NOW she will go up/down a ladder if necessary. Little brother(s) wanted to play "bounce off the wall after that.